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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hugh, yes Mike is right about the low end of the band suffering from QRM. If you could go up to the "Eu slot" (136172 +- 3 Hz, close to a spectral minimum in the HGA sidebands) you'll find several grabbers watching continuously for slow QRSS. Using daytime groundwave, Stefan and I were able to see each other across 180 km with ERP down to about 2 uW. [...] Content analysis details: (-2.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [64.12.207.163 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -2.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: b4085bc26841e34d79a2f3beb8f287b1 Subject: Re: LF: Sat13th & Sun14th Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01CE3842.081872A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-dk01.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4055169331b52d9 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CE3842.081872A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hugh,=20 yes Mike is right about the low end of the band suffering from QRM. If = you could go up to the "Eu slot" (136172 +- 3 Hz, close to a spectral = minimum in the HGA sidebands) you'll find several grabbers watching = continuously for slow QRSS. Using daytime groundwave, Stefan and I were = able to see each other across 180 km with ERP down to about 2 uW. 73, and good luck for your experiments, Markus (DF6NM) =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Mike Dennison=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:49 AM Subject: Re: LF: Sat13th & Sun14th Hugh, What is your default mode? Will you be beaconing or calling CQ? What=20 should I listen/watch out for?=20 The choice of frequency is a little odd, there are S9 sidebands from=20 the HGA telegrams and S5 RTTY from SXV which will be very strong=20 after dark. Are you crystal controlled? 1kHz further HF would be much=20 better. 73 de Mike, G3XDV =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > I hope to be QRP & QRSS this Saturday & Sunday from about 0900 GMT. > Frequency will be 15Hz below 136.1kHz and power in less than 2W from a > linear amplifier so it's unlikely to get very far. If it is any good I > can try PSK or look at other modes on request. >=20 > The reason for QRP is the number of "cooked" linear amplifiers so far > but I have another plan, probably about plan "K" by now. >=20 > 73, Hugh , M0DSZ ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CE3842.081872A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hugh,
 
yes Mike is right about the low end of = the=20 band suffering from QRM. If you could go up to the "Eu slot" = (136172=20 +- 3 Hz, close to a spectral minimum in the HGA sidebands) = you'll find=20 several grabbers watching continuously for slow QRSS. Using = daytime=20 groundwave, Stefan and I were able to see each other across 180 km with = ERP down=20 to about 2 uW.
 
73, and good luck for your=20 experiments,
 
Markus (DF6NM)
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mike=20 Dennison
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Sat13th & Sun14th

Hugh,

What is your default mode? = Will you be=20 beaconing or calling CQ? What
should I listen/watch out for? =

The=20 choice of frequency is a little odd, there are S9 sidebands from
the = HGA=20 telegrams and S5 RTTY from SXV which will be very strong
after dark. = Are you=20 crystal controlled? 1kHz further HF would be much
better.

73 = de Mike,=20 G3XDV
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

> I hope = to be QRP & QRSS this Saturday=20 & Sunday from about 0900 GMT.
> Frequency will be 15Hz below = 136.1kHz=20 and power in less than 2W from a
> linear amplifier so it's = unlikely to=20 get very far. If it is any good I
> can try PSK or look at other = modes on=20 request.
>
> The reason for QRP is the number of = "cooked" =20 linear amplifiers so far
> but I have another plan, probably about = plan=20 "K" by now.
>
> 73, Hugh , M0DSZ

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