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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: And I will validate the near instanteous drop in conditions if we hit any sort of disturbance here in Alaska - and the "average" time it takes to recover means I can typically take a break of couple of weeks looking for DX and take up knitting again. Fair conditions in Eu for longer haul are typically "poor" here. Got to say this has been the worst winter for long haul over the Pole Ive seen in 10 years of looking. Unlike other locations HF over the pole conditions are a pretty strong indicator of whats what at LF and MF in Winter - if I typically dont see any signal over the North Pole from Eu on 3.5/7 or even 14 and above forget it at LF. More Southerly paths are less affected and to date if one of the stronger JA's fires up on 136 we will see it here. Now, if I wander closer to the Geo Poles things are actually get very different - peering out of the Auroral oval (say from 83N 74W, or 80S 100W) with just one crossing into more temperate geomag latitudes means the delight of AuE at VHF and some odd MF openings -I recall in the middle of a particularly strong Mag storm listening to Capital radio London on 1548kHz from Antarctica with little to no warble and S9 strength - very odd - but that was the same year as we were watching BBC TV 405 lines direct from down there - so it was an odd year oF Solar max - I miss your reports Alan ! Laurence KL 1 X From: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:15:56 -0400 Subject: Re: LF: Best results so far from Germany to Tasmania [...] Content analysis details: (-2.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hellozerohellozero[at]hotmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -2.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 131286aabc28dd54c072e5e89638c651 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ece08796-2c81-4d33-aea7-be7ad0f3b35d_" Subject: RE: LF: Best results so far from Germany to Tasmania X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-DMARC: mtain-di03.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : hotmail.com ; policy : none ; result : F x-aol-sid: 3039ac1da6075165ea322c5f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_ece08796-2c81-4d33-aea7-be7ad0f3b35d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And I will validate the near instanteous drop in conditions if we hit any s= ort of disturbance here in Alaska - and the "average" time it takes to reco= ver means I can typically take a break of couple of weeks looking for DX a= nd take up knitting again. Fair conditions in Eu for longer haul are typica= lly "poor" here. Got to say this has been the worst winter for long haul ov= er the Pole Ive seen in 10 years of looking. Unlike other locations HF over= the pole conditions are a pretty strong indicator of whats what at LF and = MF in Winter - if I typically dont see any signal over the North Pole from = Eu on 3.5/7 or even 14 and above forget it at LF. More Southerly paths are= less affected and to date if one of the stronger JA's fires up on 136 we w= ill see it here. Now=2C if I wander closer to the Geo Poles things are actu= ally get very different - peering out of the Auroral oval (say from 83N 74W= =2C or 80S 100W) with just one crossing into more temperate geomag latitude= s means the delight of AuE at VHF and some odd MF openings -I recall in the= middle of a particularly strong Mag storm listening to Capital radio Londo= n on 1548kHz from Antarctica with little to no warble and S9 strength - ver= y odd - but that was the same year as we were watching BBC TV 405 lines dir= ect from down there - so it was an odd year oF Solar max - I miss your repo= rts Alan ! Laurence KL 1 X From: jrusgrove@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed=2C 10 Apr 2013 17:15:56 -0400 Subject: Re: LF: Best results so far from Germany to Tasmania =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= >There is one further factor and that is signal =0A= leakage. If the geomag conditions are very quiet for extended periods like = =0A= during the >Solar min. signals seem to decrease=2C I have a feeling that = =0A= some of the longer lived ionisayion in the E-region may depend on >the Ring= =0A= Current charge. After a long quiet period the night-time E-layer does not = =0A= "reflect" quite so well. Conditions then improve >after a small event=2C = =0A= Kp=3D4=2C which would under normal conditions be insignificant=2C and produ= ces only =0A= small changes to the Dst.=0A= =0A= Alan=0A= =0A= Interesting explanation - always appreciate your =0A= thoughts on the subject! Have certainly witnessed the 'quiet condition =0A= signal drop off' for years on the T/A path.=0A= =0A= Jay W1VD WD2XNS =0A= WE2XGR/2 = --_ece08796-2c81-4d33-aea7-be7ad0f3b35d_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And I will validate the =3Bn= ear instanteous drop =3Bin conditions if =3Bwe hit any sort of dist= urbance =3Bhere in Alaska - and the "average" time it takes to recover = means I can typically take a break of =3B couple of weeks looking = =3Bfor DX and take up knitting again. Fair conditions in Eu for longer haul= are typically "poor" here.
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Got to say this has been the wor= st winter for long haul over the Pole Ive seen in 10 years of looking.
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Unlike other locations HF over the pole conditions are a pretty = strong indicator of whats what at LF and MF in Winter - if I typically dont= see any signal over the North Pole =3Bfrom Eu =3Bon 3.5/7 or even = 14 and above forget =3Bit at LF. =3B
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More Southerly = paths are less affected and =3Bto date if one of the stronger JA's fire= s =3Bup on 136 we will see it here. Now=2C if I wander closer to the Ge= o Poles things are actually get =3Bvery different - peering out of the = Auroral oval (say from 83N 74W=2C or 80S 100W) =3Bwith just one crossin= g into more temperate =3Bgeomag latitudes means the delight of AuE at V= HF and some odd MF openings -
I recall in the middle of a particularly s= trong Mag storm listening to Capital radio London =3Bon 1548kHz from An= tarctica with little to no warble and S9 strength - very odd - but that was= the same year as we were watching BBC TV 405 lines direct from down there = - so it was =3Ban odd year oF Solar max -
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I miss your re= ports Alan !
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Laurence KL 1 X

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From: jrusgrove@comc= ast.net
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wed=2C 10 Apr 2013 17:= 15:56 -0400
Subject: Re: LF: Best results so far from Germany to Tasmani= a

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>=3BThere is one further factor and = that is signal =0A= leakage. If the geomag conditions are very quiet for extended periods like = =0A= during the >=3BSolar min. signals seem to decrease=2C =3B I have a fe= eling that =0A= some of the longer lived ionisayion in the E-region may depend on >=3Bthe= Ring =0A= Current charge. After a long quiet period the night-time E-layer does not = =0A= "reflect" quite so well. =3BConditions then improve >=3Bafter a small= event=2C =0A= Kp=3D4=2C which would under normal conditions be insignificant=2C and produ= ces only =0A= small changes to the Dst.=0A=
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Alan
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Interesting explanation - always appre= ciate your =0A= thoughts on the subject! =3BHave certainly witnessed the 'quiet conditi= on =0A= signal =3Bdrop off' for years on the T/A path.
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Jay W1VD =3B WD2XNS =3B =0A= WE2XGR/2 =3B
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