Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 30A583800010A; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1UQ3cw-0001t1-LK for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:36:26 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1UQ3cw-0001sl-3E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:36:26 +0100 Received: from nm2-vm1.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([212.82.99.117]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1UQ3cu-0000mQ-9t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:36:24 +0100 Received: from [212.82.98.43] by nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2013 22:36:02 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.167] by tm4.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2013 22:36:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2013 22:36:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1365633362; bh=N09cWIiuCJ7XS5o1I6CCQ9DXezX0C26Fs7UjzyhL0E4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus:X-Antivirus-Status; b=RWsFN3ttbpGTORbr3P+XCMoR3L7RWO1RPWLlCPdx2W+hMXz1iKWZbfoPXbg0mw+2QpN8JNIUeHNEBgeuxPVCqA+/T4QZLqzVirglejPff8D7tx6cr6eHSCvfqMwWBGbfUabkFACJIFeT+5BUfHyCxdMwGKlBQLlxuyX78ElZRwA= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 877959.70692.bm@smtp108.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: R6C3.SoVM1n7NzNavU1MkGXL8JN04Ex5zQeyvZQuNJR03VP 8WK4QdkBXqX58dDpT8YH2NUesKYMu1kMqnPj3KBV5rxADzFx6_XR.g47.dbt cE.N41oOAQAmItiQP68qR3WnuqBvTgXCGMEgX7Oy5KHMB.tIrg0vvxE_wi5J N96R.A2x8aHZsEWhNtnVW9QdFTJfYEXYjpAE9CLOyj6vt2CMKjh6qbkWTO9Z 7g8qvHOtBOYYaZlnSKI5POPESabCzUNdRMhOYcPsz06gu9YogZW8pihKfO9M 3QnHnjBkqPVE68Le.2LLyPnRs9oM5Mj5kW3YpWsCdgWjUKilX5Y3Py4uClVV 1yfiylqgduVI4jiDMz_r_wFRTj9TxgbwoXQK7.1zsR8oBMcUHp9B0YvTuVEO aqNGeMeXMGXdsNf_dDZyP6boRYMnnMTasZT.fv..NHjwbhKtcb0R9HmCzhWd jgVubkKdRZy7wJVe.1uA- X-Yahoo-SMTP: fpz.2VeswBBs59bVshRPmMN51lcO2lgFRIvE4XTqE8dRwOxd70E- X-Rocket-Received: from gnat (alan.melia@86.149.140.116 with login) by smtp108.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Apr 2013 22:36:02 +0000 UTC Message-ID: From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <51640505.8010600@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <44E37B4DD1EE4EE1A2E67CCC1D5C79CE@White> <4132502B9D6F4A5CB85AC4055AA5851C@gnat> <37496A16FE3E425A8EE69AC8AB0A07B7@gnat> <00a801ce3630$980cd130$6d01a8c0@DELL4> Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 23:35:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130410-1, 10/04/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Jay yes thanks, and that it perks up a bit with a low level coronal hole event around Kp=4. I have just found a useful source of reading matter so I have invested this month's beer money :-)) Hopefully I will have a more "scientific" explanation when I have absorbed that. Even is suffering from too much blood in my alcohol stream by then. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.82.99.117 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 982d53dbb4bb82e9ed4f38562b2a1556 Subject: Re: LF: Best results so far from Germany to Tasmania Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E2_01CE3644.27D416D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60165165e98f3092 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01CE3644.27D416D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jay yes thanks, and that it perks up a bit with a low level coronal = hole event around Kp=3D4. I have just found a useful source of reading = matter so I have invested this month's beer money :-)) Hopefully I will = have a more "scientific" explanation when I have absorbed that. Even is = suffering from too much blood in my alcohol stream by then. Alan=20 G3NYK=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:15 PM Subject: Re: LF: Best results so far from Germany to Tasmania >There is one further factor and that is signal leakage. If the geomag = conditions are very quiet for extended periods like during the >Solar = min. signals seem to decrease, I have a feeling that some of the longer = lived ionisayion in the E-region may depend on >the Ring Current charge. = After a long quiet period the night-time E-layer does not "reflect" = quite so well. Conditions then improve >after a small event, Kp=3D4, = which would under normal conditions be insignificant, and produces only = small changes to the Dst.=20 Alan Interesting explanation - always appreciate your thoughts on the = subject! Have certainly witnessed the 'quiet condition signal drop off' = for years on the T/A path. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01CE3644.27D416D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Jay yes thanks, and that it perks up = a bit with=20 a low level coronal hole event around Kp=3D4. I have just found a useful = source of=20 reading matter so I have invested this month's beer money :-))  = Hopefully I=20 will have a more "scientific" explanation when I have absorbed that. = Even is=20 suffering from too much blood in my alcohol stream by then.
 
Alan
G3NYK 
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From:=20 jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 = 10:15=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Best results = so far from=20 Germany to Tasmania

>There is one further factor and = that is=20 signal leakage. If the geomag conditions are very quiet for extended = periods=20 like during the >Solar min. signals seem to decrease,  I have = a=20 feeling that some of the longer lived ionisayion in the E-region may = depend on=20 >the Ring Current charge. After a long quiet period the night-time = E-layer=20 does not "reflect" quite so well. Conditions then improve = >after a=20 small event, Kp=3D4, which would under normal conditions be = insignificant, and=20 produces only small changes to the Dst.=20
 
Alan
 
Interesting explanation - always = appreciate your=20 thoughts on the subject! Have certainly witnessed the 'quiet = condition=20 signal drop off' for years on the T/A path.
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2 
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