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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Peter, yes I was also wondering whether it was really me but now it's sure. I think I did have some samplerate tracking issues around 11 UT, but it looks good again now. Interestingly but perhaps unrelated, DHO went off air for a minute at 11:18. 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I = think I did have some samplerate tracking issues around 11 UT, but it = looks good again now. Interestingly but perhaps unrelated, DHO went off = air for a minute at 11:18. =20 In the past we have observed that the diurnal propagatipon pattern = depends on the phase between groundwave and ionospheric components, and = thus on the distance between TX and RX. So it may well be different = between you and Uwe, versus you and myself. Unfortunately I won't be = able to transmit contiuously throughout day and night, and will have to = go off air around 13 UT today. Best 73, and thanks again, Markus (DF6NM) From: PA1SDB, Peter=20 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 2:13 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: VLF: Sunday morning test 8270.020 Hz Hello Markus, VLF At first I was quite sure, but later in the morning I started to doubt = whether I did receive DF6NM. Meanwhile, in the afternoon I really see the trail of DF6NM appear in = the spectrogram. As you can see in the traces of DJ8WX (in my grabber) the propagation is = not good during daylight between us. I hope you are able to stay on air for a while. 73s Peter www.qsl.net/pa1sdb ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk=20 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 9:02 AM Subject: Re: VLF: Sunday morning test 8270.020 Hz Great, it seems to work! DJ8WX had apparently interrupted his carrier = for an hour but has come back. To my surprise, I seem to be making it to = Appingedam as well http://www.ok2bvg.cz/vlfgrabber/ http://www.qsl.net/pa1sdb/ Thanks to Lubos and Peter for monitoring and running your excellent = online grabbers, and to Uwe for motivation and company! Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Lubos OK2BVG=20 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2013 8:45 AM To: _RSGB_LF=20 Subject: RE: VLF: Sunday morning test 8270.020 Hz Hello Markus, VLF! I am looking forward to see your signal on my grabber. It would be fine = to see both signals, from Uwe and you, together. =20 73! Lubos -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: markusvester@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:03:37 +0200 Subject: VLF: Sunday morning test 8270.020 Hz This afternoon I have resonated the venerable seven-bucket VLF coil to = my home antenna on 8.27 kHz, and I'm currently running a test = transmission on 8270.020 Hz. Assuming appropriate weather conditions (ie = no wind and rain, but cold and grey so that the neighbours won't want to = enjoy their gardens and complain about the tone), I intend to join Uwe 5 = mHz below his carrier, for a couple of hours starting sometime around 8 = UT tomorrow. The signal will be weak (10 uW ERP) but I'm hoping to leave = a trace in Lubos' grabber window. 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Peter,
 
yes I was also wondering = whether it was really=20 me but now it's sure. I think I did have some samplerate tracking = issues=20 around 11 UT, but it looks good again now. Interestingly but perhaps = unrelated,=20 DHO went off air for a minute at 11:18.  
 
In the past we have observed that the = diurnal=20 propagatipon pattern depends on the phase between groundwave and = ionospheric=20 components, and thus on the distance between TX and RX. So it may well = be=20 different between you and Uwe, versus you and myself. Unfortunately = I won't be able to transmit contiuously throughout = day and=20 night, and will have to go off air around 13=20 UT today.
 
Best 73, and thanks again,
 
Markus (DF6NM)
 
 

From:=20 PA1SDB, Peter
Sent: Sunday, April 07, = 2013 2:13=20 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: VLF: Sunday = morning test=20 8270.020 Hz

Hello Markus, VLF
At first I was quite sure,=20 but = later in the = morning I started to = doubt whether = I  did receive = DF6NM.
Meanwhile, in the afternoon I really see the=20 trail of DF6NM appear in=20 the spectrogram.
As you can see in the traces of DJ8WX (in my grabber) the=20 propagation is not good during daylight between = us.
I hope you are able to stay on air for a=20 while.
 
73s Peter
 
www.qsl.net/pa1sdb
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From: Markus = Vester=20
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups= .co.uk=20
Sent: Sunday, April 07, = 2013 9:02=20 AM
Subject: Re: VLF: = Sunday morning=20 test 8270.020 Hz

Great, it seems to work! = DJ8WX had=20 apparently interrupted his carrier for an hour but has = come back. To=20 my surprise, I seem to be making it to Appingedam as well
 http://www.ok2bvg.cz/vlfgrabber/
 http://www.qsl.net/pa1sdb/
 
Thanks to Lubos and Peter for = monitoring=20 and running your excellent online grabbers, and to Uwe for motivation = and=20 company!
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 

Sent: Sunday, = April 07, 2013=20 8:45 AM
To: = _RSGB_LF
Subject: RE: = VLF: Sunday=20 morning test 8270.020 Hz

Hello Markus, = VLF!
I am looking forward to see = your signal on=20 my grabber. It would be fine to see both signals, from  Uwe and = you,=20 together.  

73!

Lubos
From: markusvester@aol.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org;=20 rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 21:03:37 +0200
Subject: VLF: Sunday = morning test=20 8270.020 Hz

This afternoon I have=20 resonated the venerable seven-bucket VLF coil to = my home=20 antenna on 8.27 kHz, and I'm currently running a test transmission = on=20 8270.020 Hz. Assuming appropriate weather conditions (ie no wind = and rain,=20 but cold and grey so that the neighbours won't want to enjoy their = gardens and=20 complain about the tone), I intend to join Uwe 5 mHz below his = carrier, for a couple of hours starting sometime around 8 UT = tomorrow. The=20 signal will be weak (10 uW ERP) but I'm hoping to leave a trace in = Lubos'=20 grabber window.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
 
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