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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi all Alan, Graham and Pat Pat Ok Pat you have fixed it OK now not to worry but wasn't sure if it was me so thought I would mention it. OK Graham yes I was on the team that gave Sealand it's interanet infrastructure in the 90's. Like all ministry outfits its all change when the Gov wants to mop up the local unemployment. [...] Content analysis details: (2.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.196 listed in list.dnswl.org] 2.2 TVD_SUBJ_ACC_NUM Subject has spammy looking monetary reference 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (m0fmt[at]yahoo.co.uk) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 7ac7ee35f057d93c45272d71554a4074 Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="856002529-1963384276-1365715138=:88367" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=AMATEUR_PORN,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-dd05.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4091516729255a1f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --856002529-1963384276-1365715138=:88367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all=0AAlan, Graham and Pat Pat=0A=0AOk Pat you have fixed it OK now not = to worry but wasn't sure if it was me so thought I would mention it.=0A=0AO= K Graham yes I was on the team that gave Sealand it's interanet infrastruct= ure in the 90's. Like all ministry outfits its all change when the Gov want= s to mop up the local unemployment.=0A=0AI have sent a mail to Mike it may = be an ace in the hole. Yes I believe it was a boon to the ham brigade espec= ially in the pre channelised days on 2m. I always wondered how certain indi= viduals locally got choise 2m QRGs in the old days when the rest of us sat = on top of each other using the cheap 8meg FT243's.=0A=0AGood luck with that= radio, expect a T9 from your neck of the woods soon.=0A=0AAnd Alan keep th= e fans going on the BlackSheep server it is needed.=0A=0A73 es GL Pete M0FM= T IO91UX=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> From: Alan Melia =0A>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>Sent: Thur= sday, 11 April 2013, 20:26=0A>Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTA= LS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>Interesting Pete = I didnt get two that time. I had =0Ait happen the other day Idont know whet= her there is congestion (kids doing =0Aholiday projects) but I hit "send/re= ceive" I got all the receive messages but =0Agot an error on send, and the = message wasstill in outbox so I sent it =0Aagain......and got two copies fr= om the reflector. So I guess te server didnt ack =0Athe receipt the first t= ime although it did receive the messages. =0A>That's more like BOGOHP=A0 :-= )) =0A>Alan=A0 =0A>----- Original Message ----- =0A>>From: M0FMT =0A>>To:= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 7:17 PM= =0A>>Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz = =0A>>=0A>> =0A>>Pat there's something up with your e-mail because it keeps = sending the same thing twice? i.e. two e-mails for the price of one. =0A>= >=A073 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>> =0A>>=0A>>>____________________________= ____=0A>>>From: pat =0A>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = =0A>>>Cc: M0FMT =0A>>>Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 1= 8:53=0A>>>Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 = KHz=0A>>> =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>Well, you might have been happy, Pete. I disco= vered that the family cat's whiskers wouldn't work with a bit of coke and = we had to go back to a pair of baked bean cans and string!=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>= >>=0A>>>=0A>>>On 11/04/13 16:20, M0FMT wrote:=0A>>> =0A>>>And we all live i= n a hole in the road=A0but we were happy!!.....:0)=0A>>>>=0A>>>> =0A>>>>73= es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>>>=0A>>>>From: pat mailto:g4gvw@aol.com=0A>>>>= >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>>>Cc: M0FMT mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.u= k =0A>>>>>Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 13:06=0A>>>>>Subject: Re: LF: Wan= ted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>= =0A>>>>>And Wireless Set No.17 for =A32:19:6 (2Volt accumulator and HT Bat= tery 10/- extra)=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>And we're =0A all getting older!=0A>= >>>>=0A>>>>>73 =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>On 11/04/13 12:18, = =0A M0FMT wrote:=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>>Hi Graham =0A>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>>How= young you are my introduction to Tottenham Court Road (Proops?) , Lisles = Street (GW Smiths), Charring Cross =A0and The Edgeware Road=A0 about 1956.= Aaaaah those were the days. learnt a lot about Radio,=A0Life, the Univers= e and everything there...... hee! =0A>>>>>>Got my R107 from Lisle Street w= ith money save from my apprentices pay. Carried it=A0 (abt 1 CWT) via bus = to Kings Cross in the days when the conductor would jump off the bus and g= ive you had to get it on board........ imagine that on a "Bendy Bus" today= . See http://www.retinascope.co.uk/lislestreet.html=A0for the full story. = =0A>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>>OK on the stick info yes but I am CW only really can'= t get too excited about sterile data although as you know I do partake occ= asionally.=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>Fr= om: Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=0A>>>>>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org =0A>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 11:52=0A>>>>>>>Subject: = Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz =0A>>>>>>> =0A>= >>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>R Pete =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>Well , its possible t= o=A0 use the=A0 emergency=A0 vfo=A0 , but that=A0 results=A0 in a very=A0 = unstable=A0 signal , I=A0=A0 remember=A0 down the=A0 Tottenham court road= , there=A0 where=A0 tea chests of=A0 crystals , but that=A0 was=A0 1970 .= . seems=A0 a=A0 lot=A0 of the=A0 traditional=A0 firms have=A0 closed , = =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>One=A0 of the=A0 =A35=A0 dds=A0 with=A0 a driver=A0 wo= uld=A0 work , but=A0 they=A0 want to=A0 keep=A0 it=A0 standard =0A>>>>>>>= =0A>>>>>>>DS -=A0=A0 That's really=A0 the=A0 'correct'=A0 situation=A0 ,= =A0 that=A0 -33 db decode, -3=A0db=A0 lower than=A0 normal =A0was=A0 a=A0 = good=A0 indication =A0 that=A0 the=A0 system=A0 is=A0 working ,=A0=A0=A0o= ver ranging=A0 the=A0 a/d=A0 is the=A0 only=A0 problem . I think=A0 dynami= c=A0 range is=A0 60 d b after=A0 processing=A0 , is it=A0=A0 3 db per=A0 = bit=A0 ?=A0 8 bits=A0 , 24=A0 db + 3=A0=A0 that's=A0=A0 27 dB ?=A0 500:1 ?= =A0 , but=A0=A0 by=A0 removing=A0=A0=A0 qty=A0 2=A0 mixers=A0=A0 and=A0 = 2=A0 oscillators=A0=A0 , [ may=A0 be 3=A0 oscillators=A0 1 , hf-up-conv=A0= 2 , pll=A0 conv osc=A0 3=A0 ref osc )=A0 that=A0 is a=A0 lot=A0 of=A0 no= ise + jitter=A0 removed=A0 from the=A0 signal=A0 path as well=A0 as=A0=A0 = imd=A0 from=A0 2=A0 mixers , I found=A0 a attenuator=A0 helped=A0 for=A0 = mw=A0 and=A0 I have=A0 a=A0 mw-filter=A0 , which=A0 cleaned=A0 up=A0 sw=A0= bands=A0 ......=A0 nice to=A0 have a=A0 panoramic=A0 display , 2=A0 mhz = this time , the=A0 ra17=A0 was 1 mhz=A0 and=A0=A0 28=A0 valves + 20 ish = =A0> in the=A0 radio=A0 =A0 =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>73-G. =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>= =0A>>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>>From: M0FMT =0A>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 = 10:47 AM =0A>>>>>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>>>>>Subject: Re:= LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz =0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>= >>> =0A>>>>>>>OK Graham =0A>>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>>>Thought it was home brew re= tro.......... I am in that mode and think everbody else is! What do you do= at the moment inject a Sig Genny? =0A>>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>>>Have you checke= d the net=A0or checked out Vincent - QuartzLab etc? =0A>>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>= >>>Anyway what's that master osc circuit. I build from old RADCOM (pre 197= 5 when they published real amateur radio) and PW,QST etal. I use modern xt= als with no known issues. Well trying to get third overtone for 10m not to= chirp is an issue with me at the moment.=A0 =0A>>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>>>OK ye= s got a stick on its way didn't want to tear up my existing upconverter de= sign. But not sure there is much wrong with the UC approach it works for m= e. But want to try the direct approach. Do you get much Cross mod and IM = products?=0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>>>>>= >=0A>>>>>>>From: Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=0A>>>>>>>>To: rsgb_l= f_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 0:47=0A>>= >>>>>>Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz = =0A>>>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>Ok Pete =0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>= >Q where to=A0 have=A0 them=A0 made=A0 ? =0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>The=A0 set= =A0 , Marconi=A0 Ocean span 1950's=A0 valve=A0 tx=A0 =A0needs=A0 the=A0 bi= g=A0 rock's=A0 as the=A0 oscillator=A0 pass's=A0=A0 quite a=A0 lot=A0 of= =A0 power=A0 via them ...hc6u=A0 are=A0 no=A0 good=A0 , drive level is ver= y low - the ones fitted=A0 are the=A0wired- gold=A0 flashed=A0 ones=A0 , = so=A0 cannot=A0 etch=A0 into the=A0 band ... =0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>the=A0= gang=A0 want =A0to=A0 keep=A0 it=A0 standard =0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>73 -G= . =0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>Ps=A0 waiting=A0 for=A0 qty-3=A0 =A36=A0=A0 dongl= es : ) =0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>>>From: M0FMT =0A>>>>>>>>Sent: Wedn= esday, April 10, 2013 11:43 PM =0A>>>>>>>>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = =0A>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.7= 5 KHz =0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>>>Hi =0A>>>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>>>>If y= ou want to spend a small fortune get them cut. However build a Mixer VXO f= rom El cheapo standard xtals and or old PMR rocks. Then at your next rally= buy a couple of Screw together 10xj or FT243 rocks of any frequency and p= ut the El-cheapo xtals inside. And Hey Presto you have Retro rocks. =0A>>>= >>>>>I have a small all valve 472 tx that uses 6.00 -6.472=3D0.472 vxo-abl= e a couple of kc/s 12ax7-6am6-6cl6=3D 4wattso/p. Local QRP rig. =0A>>>>>>>= >Hope this helps =0A>>>>>>>>=A0 =0A>>>>>>>>73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=0A>>>= >>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>From: Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk=0A>>>>>>>>>To: = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A>>>>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 20= :30=0A>>>>>>>>>Subject: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75= KHz =0A>>>>>>>>> =0A>>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>>Wanted=A0 10XJ=A0 or= =A0 FT243=A0 XTALS=A0=A0 Range=A0=A0 236.25=A0=A0=A0 236.75=A0 KHz=A0=A0= =A0 =0A>>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>>Q=A0 Is there=A0 any=A0 manufacture=A0 of=A0= =A0 crystals=A0 in this=A0 range=A0 ? =0A>>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>>Or=A0 Surplus= =A0=A0=A0 items=A0=A0 available=A0 =0A>>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>>QTY=A01=A0 or= =A0 2=A0 off=A0 =0A>>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>>TNX- Graham =0A>>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>= >>G0NBD=0A>>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>=0A>>>>>>>= =0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>-- =0A73 de pat g4gvw=0Aes gd dx=0Aqth nr Felixstow= e=0AEast Coast UK=0A>>>>>=0A>>>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>>-- =0A73 de pat g4gvw=0A= es gd dx=0Aqth nr Felixstowe=0AEast Coast UK=0A>>>=0A>>> =0A>=0A> --856002529-1963384276-1365715138=:88367 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all
Alan, Graham and Pat Pat
 
Ok Pat = you have fixed it OK now not to worry but wasn't sure if it was me so thoug= ht I would mention it.
 
OK Graham yes I was on th= e team that gave Sealand it's interanet infrastructure in the 90's. Like al= l ministry outfits its all change when the Gov wants to mop up the local un= employment.
 
I have sent a mail to Mike it may be= an ace in the hole. Yes I believe it was a boon to the ham brigade especia= lly in the pre channelised days on 2m. I always wondered how certain indivi= duals locally got choise 2m QRGs in the old days when the rest of us sat on= top of each other using the cheap 8meg FT243's.
 
Good luck with that radio, expect a T9 from your neck of the woods soon.
 
And Alan keep the fans going on the Black= Sheep server it is needed.
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT I= O91UX
From: Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.= com>
To: rsgb_lf_gr= oup@blacksheep.org
Sent:<= /b> Thursday, 11 April 2013, 20:26
Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KH= z

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Interesting Pete I didnt get two that time. I had =0Ait happen = the other day Idont know whether there is congestion (kids doing =0Aholiday= projects) but I hit "send/receive" I got all the receive messages but =0Ag= ot an error on send, and the message wasstill in outbox so I sent it =0Aaga= in......and got two copies from the reflector. So I guess te server didnt a= ck =0Athe receipt the first time although it did receive the messages.
=0A
That's more like BOGOHP&nbs= p; :-))
=0A
Alan&nbs= p;
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-----= Original Message -----
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From: =0A M0FMT
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Sent: Thursd= ay, April 11, 2013 7:17 =0A PM
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Subject: Re: LF= : Wanted 10XJ or FT243 =0A XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz
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Pat there's something up with your e-mail because it keeps sen= ding =0A the same thing twice? i.e. two e-mails for the price of one.
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 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
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From: pat <g4gvw@ao= l.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep= .org =0A
Cc: M0= FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>
= Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013= , =0A 18:53
Subject:= Re: LF: =0A Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz
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Well, you might have been happy, =0A Pete. I discovered that th= e family cat's whiskers wouldn't work with a bit =0A of coke and we had = to go back to a pair of baked bean cans and =0A string!



<= br>On 11/04/13 16:20, M0FMT wrote:
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And we all live in a hole in the road but we were =0A ha= ppy!!.....:0)

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73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
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F= rom: pat mailto:g4gvw@aol.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep= .org =0A
Cc: M0FMT mailto:m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk =0A
Sent: Thursday, 11 =0A April 2013, 13:= 06
Subject: Re: LF: Wan= ted 10XJ or =0A FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz
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And Wireless Set No.17 for =0A =A32:19:6 (2Volt acc= umulator and HT Battery 10/- extra)

And we're =0A all getting= older!

73




On 11/04/13 12:18, =0A M0FMT w= rote:
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Hi= Graham
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=0A =
How young you are my introduction to Tottenham Court Road =0A = (Proops?) , Lisles Street (GW Smiths), Charring Cross  and The= =0A Edgeware Road  about 1956. Aaaaah those were the days. <= span id=3D"yiv1216383659misspell-6">learnt a lot about = =0A Radio, Life, the Universe and everything there...... =0A = hee!
=0A
Got my R107 from Lisle St= reet with money save from my =0A apprentices pay. Carried it = (abt 1 CWT) via bus to Kings Cross =0A in the days when the condu= ctor would jump off the bus and give you had =0A to get it on boar= d........ imagine that on a "Bendy Bus" today. See http:/= /www.retinascope.co.uk/lislestreet.html for =0A the full = story.
=0A
 
=0A =
OK on the stick info yes but I am CW only really can't get =0A = too excited about sterile data although as you know I do partake occasionally.
=0A
73= es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
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From: Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_lf_group@b= lacksheep.org =0A
= Sent: Thursday, 11 =0A April 2013, 11:52
Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or =0A= FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz
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R Pete
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Well , its possible to&nbs= p; use the  emergency  =0A vfo  , but that  = results  in a very  =0A unstable  signal , I = ;  remember  down the  =0A Tottenham court road ,= there  where  tea chests of  =0A crystals , but = that  was  1970 .. seems  a  =0A lot  o= f the  traditional  firms have  closed , =0A =0A
 
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One  of the = ; =A35  dds  with  a =0A driver  would = work , but  they  want to  =0A keep  it&nbs= p; standard
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DS -&= nbsp;  That's really  the  'correct'  =0A si= tuation  ,  that  -33 db decode, -3 db  =0A = lower than  normal  was  a  good  =0A = indication   that  the  system  is  working = =0A ,   over ranging  the  a/d  is= =0A the  only  problem . I think  dynamic  = range =0A is  60 d b after  processing  , is it&n= bsp;  3 =0A db per  bit  ?  8 bits  , 2= 4  db + =0A 3   that's   27 dB ?  = 500:1 ?   , =0A but   by  removing &nbs= p;  qty  =0A 2  mixers   and  2&nb= sp; oscillators   =0A , [ may  be 3  oscilla= tors  1 , hf-up-conv  2 , =0A pll  conv osc = 3  ref osc )  that  is =0A a  lot  of&= nbsp; noise + jitter  removed  from =0A the  sign= al  path as well  as   imd  =0A from&nb= sp; 2  mixers , I found  a attenuator  =0A helped=   for  mw  and  I have  a  =0A mw-= filter  , which  cleaned  up  sw  =0A b= ands  ......  nice to  have a  panoramic  =0A = display , 2  mhz this time , the  ra17  was 1 =0A = mhz  and   28  valves + 20 ish  > in = =0A the  radio   
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73-G.
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From: M0FMT
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Sent:= Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:47 AM
=0A =0A <= div>Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 =0A = 236.75 KHz
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OK Graham
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Thought it was home brew retro..........= I am in that =0A mode and think everbody else is! What do you d= o at the moment inject =0A a Sig Genny?
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Have you checked= the net or checked out Vincent - =0A QuartzLab etc?
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Anyway what's that master osc circuit. I build from old =0A R= ADCOM (pre 1975 when they published real amateur radio) and PW,QST =0A = etal. I use modern xtals with no known issues. Well trying to get = =0A third overtone for 10m not to chirp is an issue with me at t= he =0A moment. 
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OK yes got a stick on its way didn'= t want to tear up my =0A existing upconverter design. But not su= re there is much wrong with =0A the UC approach it works for me.= But want to try the direct =0A approach. Do you get much Cross = mod and IM =0A products?

=0A 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
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From: Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb_= lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A
Sent: Thursday, =0A 11 April 2013, 0:47=
Subject: Re: LF: Wante= d 10XJ =0A or FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz
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Ok Pete
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=0A Q where to  have  them  made  ?
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The  set  , Marconi = ; Ocean span 1950's  =0A valve  tx   needs=   the  big  =0A rock's  as the  oscil= lator  pass's   =0A quite a  lot  of&= nbsp; power  via them =0A ...hc6u  are  no = ; good  , drive level is very =0A low - the ones fitted&n= bsp; are the wired- gold  =0A flashed  ones&nbs= p; , so  cannot  etch  into =0A the  band = ...
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the = gang  want  to  keep  it  =0A standa= rd
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73 -G. =0A
 
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Ps  waiting=   for  qty-3  =A36   =0A dongles : )<= /div>=0A
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=0A From: M0FMT
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Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2= 013 11:43 PM
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= Subject: Re: LF: Wanted 10XJ or FT243 XTALS Range =0A 2= 36.25 236.75 KHz
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Hi
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If you want to spend a small fortune g= et them cut. =0A However build a Mixer VXO from El cheapo stan= dard xtals and or old =0A PMR rocks. Then at your next rally b= uy a couple of Screw together =0A 10xj or FT243 rocks of any f= requency and put the El-cheapo xtals =0A inside. And Hey Prest= o you have Retro rocks.
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I have a sm= all all valve 472 tx that uses 6.00 =0A -6.472=3D0.472 vxo-abl= e a couple of kc/s 12ax7-6am6-6cl6=3D 4wattso/p. =0A Local QRP= rig.
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Hope this helps
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73 es = GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX
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From: Graham mailto:g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk
To: rsgb= _lf_group@blacksheep.org =0A
Sent: =0A Wednesday, 10 April 2013= , 20:30
Subject: LF: Wa= nted 10XJ or =0A FT243 XTALS Range 236.25 236.75 KHz
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Wanted  10XJ  or  FT243  =0A = XTALS   Range   236.25    =0A = 236.75  KHz   
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Q  Is there  any  ma= nufacture  =0A of   crystals  in this&nb= sp; range  ?
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Or  Surplus    items   =0A = available 
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QTY 1  or  2  off 
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TNX- Graham
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