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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Well done, congratulations to the four of you! I would absolutely agree with Stefan that the traces from Joe and Spiros in America are beyond doubt, and they also perfectly line up with local Eu captures. Note that Spiros is quite a bit further than us here, and the ground reflection after his first hop is on land. 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I would absolutely agree = with Stefan that the traces from Joe and Spiros in America are beyond = doubt, and they also perfectly line up with local Eu captures. Note that = Spiros is quite a bit further than us here, and the ground reflection = after his first hop is on land. Thanks Stefan for mentioning mine among the "strong stations", but I = have to say that I am not even hoping to come near that attribute. = Actually in my opinion, the "warming of the ionosphere" by your powerful = and consistent beacon signal is quite valuable for us weak ones:=20 - it's a very useful indication of propagation versus noise level on the = other side. By the thickness of Stefan's dogbones, we know when we might = become barely visible ;-), - it provides a perfect time and frequency frame to which we can = reference lonely bright pixels and partial traces, - it is an incentive for potential remote receivers to run their = spectrograms and grabbers, - and last not least, being shown what can be done is a motivation for = us to learn and improve our modest setups. So let me say thanks to all involved, for keeping this hard but = wonderful band so much alive. Best 73,=20 Markus (DF6NM) From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:44 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west John Jay, Joe, Spiros, LF,=20 Jay, John, thanks for capturing our signals from EU. And congrats to DF2JP for beeing received at W1VD, not bad for almost = May! Looks like Joe counts to the strongest LF stns here in DL, apart = from DF6NM and me. About the traces of SV8CS at W1TAG, i find the traces are quite clear. = And i would vote for calling this an official detection of SV8CS in the = US. Distance is 7491 km, = http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DFN42CH&from=3Dkm07js, very = impressing! So my congrats to Spiros!=20 What do others think about this detection? Looks like it was a successful night on LF :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 29.04.2013 13:14, schrieb John Andrews:=20 Spiros,=20 I received an interesting signal last night. If you compare the screen = shots at G4WGT:=20 http://www.w1tag.com/files/G4WGT-SV8CS.jpg=20 to the screen shot at WTAG:=20 http://www.w1tag.com/files/W1TAG-SV8CS.jpg=20 you will note a correlation in frequency and in part of the "8" and = part of the "C" in your callsign.=20 This does NOT prove reception, but suggests that the signal may have = been there. Conditions were fairly quiet here last night, and the Dst = has recovered to reasonable levels.=20 John, W1TAG=20 FN42ch=20 On 4/29/2013 1:15 AM, SV8CS- Spiros Chimarios wrote:=20 My signal captured by G4WGT grabber (QRB 2512Km).=20 73, Spiros=20 SV8CS=20 No virus found in this incoming message.=20 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5778 - Release Date: = 04/27/13 18:36:00=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01CE4529.338E1BD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well done, congratulations to the four = of you! I=20 would absolutely agree with Stefan that the traces from Joe and = Spiros in=20 America are beyond doubt, and they also perfectly line up = with local Eu=20 captures. Note that Spiros is = quite a bit=20 further than us here, and the ground reflection after his first hop is = on=20 land.
 
Thanks Stefan = for mentioning mine among=20 the "strong stations", but I have to say that I am not even hoping to = come near=20 that attribute. Actually in my opinion, the "warming of the = ionosphere"=20 by your powerful and consistent beacon signal = is quite=20 valuable for us weak ones:
- it's a very useful indication of = propagation=20 versus noise level on the other side. By the thickness = of Stefan's=20 dogbones, we know when we might become barely = visible=20 ;-),
- it provides a perfect time and=20 frequency frame to which we can reference lonely bright pixels = and partial traces,
- it is an incentive for potential = remote receivers=20 to run their spectrograms and grabbers,
- and last not least, being shown what can be done is a = motivation=20 for us to learn and improve our modest setups.
So let me say thanks = to all=20 involved, for keeping this hard but wonderful band so much = alive.
 
Best 73, =
Markus = (DF6NM)
 
From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west

John Jay, Joe, Spiros, LF,

Jay, John, thanks for=20 capturing our signals from EU.

And congrats to DF2JP for beeing = received=20 at W1VD, not bad for almost May! Looks like Joe counts to the strongest = LF stns=20 here in DL, apart from DF6NM and me.

About the traces of SV8CS at = W1TAG,=20 i find the traces are quite clear. And i would vote for calling this an = official=20 detection of SV8CS in the US. Distance is 7491 km, htt= p://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DFN42CH&from=3Dkm07js,=20 very impressing!
So my congrats to Spiros!
What do others think = about=20 this detection?

Looks like it was a successful night on LF = :-)

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC



Am 29.04.2013 13:14, schrieb John Andrews:=20
Spiros,=20

I received an interesting signal last night. If you compare = the screen=20 shots at G4WGT:

http://www.w1tag.com/= files/G4WGT-SV8CS.jpg=20

to the screen shot at WTAG:

http://www.w1tag.com/= files/W1TAG-SV8CS.jpg=20

you will note a correlation in frequency and in part of the = "8" and=20 part of the "C" in your callsign.

This does NOT prove = reception, but=20 suggests that the signal may have been there. Conditions were fairly = quiet=20 here last night, and the Dst has recovered to reasonable levels. =

John,=20 W1TAG
FN42ch

On 4/29/2013 1:15 AM, SV8CS- Spiros Chimarios = wrote:=20

My signal captured by G4WGT grabber (QRB = 2512Km).
73, Spiros
SV8CS




No virus found = in this=20 incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.5.455 / = Virus=20 Database: 271.1.1/5778 - Release Date: 04/27/13 18:36:00=20

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