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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: You are welcome Spiros! for the QSO you are more close to mount Olympus.. and may be could intercede with Mr. Zeus for a better weather here so I can fix the antenna! It's more than 1 month after an insulator broken (just on the top of the antenna..) and the new insulator is ready but I hate to climb my mast in the rain! 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It's more than 1 month after an insulator broken (just on the = top of the antenna..) and the new insulator is ready but I hate to climb = my mast in the rain! Anyway due to the distance I guess we can have with easy a QSO soon also = during late springtime/summer. Keep on! I cross the finger for resoults in YV! 73 es GL=20 Marco, IK1HSS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: SV8CS- Spiros Chimarios=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:59 PM Subject: LF: Beacon to the west Thank you Marco IK1HSS. I need (and waiting) for a QSO with you on LF. 73, Spiros SV8CS From: Marco Cadeddu=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:36 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west LF, let me add my congrats, specially to Spiros! Unfortunately the bad weather which delays reparation to my LF antenna = doesn't allow me to join in the challenge...when the weather improves = the season will be probably gone so will try to be ready for next = season! At this time the MF TX is almost ready and waiting for an antenna..it = is still raining so spend this holiday day refurbishing the LF TX wth = some small improvement.. I'm also intrigued for a trial on 9 kHz..but is not clear how is the = legal stand here: officially, according the national frequency = assignation, frequencies below 9 kHz should be free for short range = applications and I should simply notify the communication authority and = inform them about what I'm intended to do, but as you probably know, in = Italy is not so easy and there is a not written law which states "only = officially allowed task are permitted" the general "if not forbidden is = free" rule could be a risk unless you like to spend time in the court! Henny, how is by you? Did you get a special authorization? Enjoy MF, LF VLF! 73 Marco, IK1HSS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 8:30 PM Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west Well done, congratulations to the four of you! I would absolutely = agree with Stefan that the traces from Joe and Spiros in America are = beyond doubt, and they also perfectly line up with local Eu captures. = Note that Spiros is quite a bit further than us here, and the ground = reflection after his first hop is on land. Thanks Stefan for mentioning mine among the "strong stations", but I = have to say that I am not even hoping to come near that attribute. = Actually in my opinion, the "warming of the ionosphere" by your powerful = and consistent beacon signal is quite valuable for us weak ones:=20 - it's a very useful indication of propagation versus noise level on = the other side. By the thickness of Stefan's dogbones, we know when we = might become barely visible ;-), - it provides a perfect time and frequency frame to which we can = reference lonely bright pixels and partial traces, - it is an incentive for potential remote receivers to run their = spectrograms and grabbers, - and last not least, being shown what can be done is a motivation = for us to learn and improve our modest setups. So let me say thanks to all involved, for keeping this hard but = wonderful band so much alive. Best 73,=20 Markus (DF6NM) From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:44 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west John Jay, Joe, Spiros, LF,=20 Jay, John, thanks for capturing our signals from EU. And congrats to DF2JP for beeing received at W1VD, not bad for = almost May! Looks like Joe counts to the strongest LF stns here in DL, = apart from DF6NM and me. About the traces of SV8CS at W1TAG, i find the traces are quite = clear. And i would vote for calling this an official detection of SV8CS = in the US. Distance is 7491 km, = http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DFN42CH&from=3Dkm07js, very = impressing! So my congrats to Spiros!=20 What do others think about this detection? Looks like it was a successful night on LF :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 29.04.2013 13:14, schrieb John Andrews:=20 Spiros,=20 I received an interesting signal last night. If you compare the = screen shots at G4WGT:=20 http://www.w1tag.com/files/G4WGT-SV8CS.jpg=20 to the screen shot at WTAG:=20 http://www.w1tag.com/files/W1TAG-SV8CS.jpg=20 you will note a correlation in frequency and in part of the "8" = and part of the "C" in your callsign.=20 This does NOT prove reception, but suggests that the signal may = have been there. Conditions were fairly quiet here last night, and the = Dst has recovered to reasonable levels.=20 John, W1TAG=20 FN42ch=20 On 4/29/2013 1:15 AM, SV8CS- Spiros Chimarios wrote:=20 My signal captured by G4WGT grabber (QRB 2512Km).=20 73, Spiros=20 SV8CS=20 No virus found in this incoming message.=20 Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.455 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/5778 - Release Date: = 04/27/13 18:36:00=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01CE45DB.2E3F5560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You are welcome Spiros!
 
for the QSO you are more close to mount = Olympus..=20 and may be could intercede with Mr. Zeus for a better weather here so I = can fix=20 the antenna! It's more than 1 month after an insulator broken (just on = the top=20 of the antenna..) and the new insulator is ready but I hate to climb my = mast in=20 the rain!
 
Anyway due to the distance I guess we = can have with=20 easy a QSO soon also during late springtime/summer.
Keep on! I cross the finger for = resoults in=20 YV!
73 es GL
Marco, IK1HSS
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 SV8CS- = Spiros=20 Chimarios
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 = 6:59=20 PM
Subject: LF: Beacon to the = west

Thank you Marco IK1HSS.
I need (and waiting) for a QSO with you on LF.
73, Spiros
SV8CS
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west
 
LF,
 
let me add my congrats, specially to=20 Spiros!
Unfortunately the bad weather which = delays=20 reparation to my LF antenna doesn't allow me to join in the = challenge...when=20 the weather improves the season will be probably gone so will try to = be ready=20 for next season!
At this time the MF TX is almost = ready and=20 waiting for an antenna..it is still raining so spend this holiday day=20 refurbishing the LF TX wth some small improvement..
I'm also intrigued for a trial on 9 = kHz..but is=20 not clear how is the legal stand here: officially, according the = national=20 frequency assignation, frequencies below 9 kHz should be free for = short range=20 applications and I should simply notify the communication authority = and inform=20 them about what I'm intended to do, but as you probably know, in Italy = is not=20 so easy and there is a not written law which states "only officially = allowed=20 task are permitted" the general "if not forbidden is free" rule could = be a=20 risk unless you like to spend time in the court!
Henny, how is by you? Did you get a = special=20 authorization?
 
Enjoy MF, LF VLF!
 
73 Marco, IK1HSS
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 = 8:30=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to = the=20 west
 
Well done, congratulations to the = four of you!=20 I would absolutely agree with Stefan that the traces from Joe and = Spiros in=20 America are beyond doubt, and they also perfectly line up with local = Eu=20 captures. Note that Spiros is = quite a bit=20 further than us here, and the ground reflection after his first hop = is on=20 land.
 
Thanks Stefan for mentioning mine = among the=20 "strong stations", but I have to say that I am not even hoping to = come near=20 that attribute. Actually in my opinion, the "warming of the = ionosphere" by=20 your powerful and consistent beacon signal is quite valuable for us = weak=20 ones:
- it's a very useful indication of = propagation=20 versus noise level on the other side. By the thickness of Stefan's = dogbones,=20 we know when we might become barely visible ;-),
- it provides a perfect time and = frequency=20 frame to which we can reference lonely bright pixels and partial=20 traces,
- it is an incentive for potential = remote=20 receivers to run their spectrograms and grabbers,
- and last not least, being shown what can be done is a = motivation for us to learn and improve our modest = setups.
So let me say = thanks to all=20 involved, for keeping this hard but wonderful band so much=20 alive.
 
Best 73, =
Markus = (DF6NM)
 
From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer=20
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Beacon to the west
 
John Jay, Joe, Spiros, LF,

Jay, John, = thanks for=20 capturing our signals from EU.

And congrats to DF2JP for = beeing=20 received at W1VD, not bad for almost May! Looks like Joe counts to = the=20 strongest LF stns here in DL, apart from DF6NM and me.

About = the=20 traces of SV8CS at W1TAG, i find the traces are quite clear. And i = would=20 vote for calling this an official detection of SV8CS in the US. = Distance is=20 7491 km, htt= p://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DFN42CH&from=3Dkm07js,=20 very impressing!
So my congrats to Spiros!
What do others = think about=20 this detection?

Looks like it was a successful night on LF=20 :-)

73, Stefan/DK7FC



Am 29.04.2013 13:14, = schrieb John=20 Andrews:=20
Spiros,=20

I received an interesting signal last night. If you = compare the=20 screen shots at G4WGT:

http://www.w1tag.com/= files/G4WGT-SV8CS.jpg=20

to the screen shot at WTAG:

http://www.w1tag.com/= files/W1TAG-SV8CS.jpg=20

you will note a correlation in frequency and in part of = the "8"=20 and part of the "C" in your callsign.

This does NOT prove=20 reception, but suggests that the signal may have been there. = Conditions=20 were fairly quiet here last night, and the Dst has recovered to = reasonable=20 levels.

John, W1TAG
FN42ch

On 4/29/2013 1:15 = AM,=20 SV8CS- Spiros Chimarios wrote:

My signal captured by G4WGT grabber = (QRB=20 2512Km).
73, Spiros
SV8CS




No virus = found in=20 this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20
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