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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Steinar, thanks for reporting this! The 0.1 Hz Doppler shift is remarkable. Is your frequency scale upright or inverted? On a several occasions a few years back, I observed still unexplained "ripples" on SXV 135.8 kHz, which seemed to indicate a delayed component with a similar-sized Doppler shift: http://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/sxv_ripples/sxv_ripples.htm [...] Content analysis details: (-2.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [205.188.91.96 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -2.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: d63ea50e288c5ecb9bd7a86eeabe94f2 Subject: Re: LF: A CME hit this morning Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01CE2300.AB6C0B80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4049514598006ed1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CE2300.AB6C0B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steinar, thanks for reporting this! The 0.1 Hz Doppler shift is remarkable. Is = your frequency scale upright or inverted? On a several occasions a few years back, I observed still unexplained = "ripples" on SXV 135.8 kHz, which seemed to indicate a delayed component = with a similar-sized Doppler shift: http://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/sxv_ripples/sxv_ripples.htm What is strange is that according your screenshot the shifted trace = appeared from 4:15 to 4:45 UT, whereas the Boulder magnetometer shows a = magnetic disturbance starting not before at 6:00:=20 http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/rt_plots/bou_12h.html BTW I wonder if LA4ANA's beacon would be detectable on one of our 137780 = Hz microHz grabbers here. Do you know his exact frequency, and whether = the carrier is phase continuous? Best 73, Markus From: Steinar Aanesland=20 Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:40 AM To: *rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: A CME hit this morning I think I picked it up with my 137Khz grabber. I am monitoring Robert LA4ANA on 137780. It is ground wave between us, but I think I can see an sky wave refection also when the storm hit the earth. What do you think? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/16381257/qrss60_multipath.jpg --=20 LA5VNA Steinar loc:JO59jq ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01CE2300.AB6C0B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steinar,
 
thanks for reporting this! The 0.1 Hz = Doppler shift=20 is remarkable. Is your frequency scale upright or inverted?
 
On a several occasions a = few years=20 back, I observed still unexplained "ripples" on SXV 135.8 kHz, = which=20 seemed to indicate a delayed component with a similar-sized Doppler=20 shift:
http://d= f6nm.bplaced.net/LF/sxv_ripples/sxv_ripples.htm
 
What is strange is that according your = screenshot=20 the shifted trace appeared from 4:15 to 4:45 UT, whereas the = Boulder=20 magnetometer shows a magnetic = disturbance starting=20 not before at 6:00: 
http://www.swpc.n= oaa.gov/rt_plots/bou_12h.html
 
BTW I wonder if = LA4ANA's=20 beacon would be detectable on one of our 137780 Hz microHz grabbers = here.=20 Do you know his exact frequency, and whether the = carrier is=20 phase continuous?
 
Best 73,
Markus

Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:40 AM
Subject: LF: A CME hit this morning

I think I=20 picked it up with my 137Khz grabber. I am monitoring Robert
LA4ANA on = 137780.=20 It is ground wave between us, but I think I can see an
sky wave = refection=20 also when the storm hit the earth. What do you think?

https://d= l.dropbox.com/u/16381257/qrss60_multipath.jpg
--=20
LA5VNA Steinar
loc:JO59jq

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