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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan, Bob turns his power output down when on WSPR, he can generate an additional 6-10dB in CW, and has made CW contacts with Finbar in Ireland and also did a mixed mode contact with Finbar, transmitting on ssb and receiving on CW. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.219.47 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (wd2xgj[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 5934134de2d93cab1d5fc440b67de82f Subject: Re: LF: WE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f5036fc09ee1404d810c5a9 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cd5144d9653b9a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --e89a8f5036fc09ee1404d810c5a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan, Bob turns his power output down when on WSPR, he can generate an additional 6-10dB in CW, and has made CW contacts with Finbar in Ireland and also did a mixed mode contact with Finbar, transmitting on ssb and receiving on CW. 73 Warren K2ORS On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Stefan Sch=E4fer < Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: > Hello Roelof, > > OK so far. You want to say that a a CW QSO would be possible with Bob? A > CW QSO by using a 10 Hz BW CW filter? Sounds terrible i guess ;-) > For me there is no chance since i'm farer from the sea and i assume to > have more QRM here (?). Furthermore my signal is to weak, on MF. I guess = i > would need another 6 dB here. > > However, see attached... :-) > > 73, Stefan > > > Am 16.03.2013 19:58, schrieb Roelof Bakker: > > Hello Stefan, >> >> Last night I found this decodes from WE2XGR/6. >> There are quite a few hat show an SNR > -20. >> I found that a SNR of -20 is about the threshold level for aural CW in a >> 10 Hz bandwidth for skilled ears!. >> > [...] > > >> 73, >> Roelof, pa0rdt >> >> RX: PERSEUS SDR >> ANT: pa0rdt-mini-whip 5 meter up the stem of a magnolia tree >> > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --e89a8f5036fc09ee1404d810c5a9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Bob turns his pow= er output down when on WSPR, he can generate an additional 6-10dB in CW, an= d has made CW contacts with Finbar in Ireland =A0and also did a mixed mode = contact with Finbar, transmitting on ssb and receiving on CW.

73 Warren K2ORS

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On Sat, = Mar 16, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Stefan Sch=E4fer <Stefan.Scha= efer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
Hello Roelof,

OK so far. You want to say that a a CW QSO would be possible with Bob? A CW= QSO by using a 10 Hz BW CW filter? Sounds terrible i guess ;-)
For me there is no chance since i'm farer from the sea and i assume to = have more QRM here (?). Furthermore my signal is to weak, on MF. I guess i = would need another 6 dB here.

However, see attached... :-)

73, Stefan


Am 16.03.2013 19:58, schrieb Roelof Bakker:

Hello Stefan,

Last night I found this decodes from WE2XGR/6.
There are quite a few hat show an SNR > -20.
I found that a SNR of -20 is about the threshold level for aural CW in a 10= Hz bandwidth for skilled ears!.
[...]


73,
Roelof, pa0rdt

RX: PERSEUS SDR
ANT: pa0rdt-mini-whip 5 meter up the stem of a magnolia tree



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= 73 Warren K2ORS
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1

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