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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I also discovered I had to use the REV button on fldigi to copy Stefan correctly. This was because my oscillator setting in CW is on the 'wrong' side (yes, I had the RX in CW mode). Every burst of transmission lost the first 'T' in TEST, maybe an idea to send 'V V V' or something at the start to allow the system to lock. Was most excellent copy anyway much of the time. Didn't hear anything of the GM station on CW, but maybe closed down too early. Hope we get another chance with that one! Stefan, if you're reading this, called you several times when you were CQing in CW a few evenings back, but my 25W did not get to you. Also heard G3PDN calling you and you didn't hear him either. No idea who or where G3PDN is, not on QRZ. Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent. JO01MI. ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:28 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: RTTY test transmission [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.82.99.121 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Scan-Signature: 14522a7d8bfffcae5e92e35059f18ae1 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RTTY test transmission Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01CE1A50.1298C230" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-de03.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cb5137240039d9 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CE1A50.1298C230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I also discovered I had to use the REV button on fldigi to copy Stefan = correctly. This was because my oscillator setting in CW is on the = 'wrong' side (yes, I had the RX in CW mode). Every burst of transmission lost the first 'T' in TEST, maybe an idea to = send 'V V V' or something at the start to allow the system to lock. Was most excellent copy anyway much of the time. Didn't hear anything of the GM station on CW, but maybe closed down too = early. Hope we get another chance with that one! Stefan, if you're reading this, called you several times when you were = CQing in CW a few evenings back, but my 25W did not get to you. Also = heard G3PDN calling you and you didn't hear him either. No idea who or = where G3PDN is, not on QRZ. Vy 73, Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent. JO01MI. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 12:28 AM Subject: Re: LF: Re: RTTY test transmission I think mark is high , shift hf from space , fldigi has mark = high as well , logging default is mark=3Dqrg , I could not get = fldigi to print , but mmtty (new v) did with the rev button = -in- =20 how is Stefan generating rtty , is there a mixer involved ? G.. From: g3zjo=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:19 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RTTY test transmission On 05/03/2013 22:14, Graham wrote:=20 why is the 'REV' button 'in' on MMTTY then mark =3D 1163 = Hz with 477 usb dial set ? G. Corr I haven't run that for years. Hmm, it seems to indicate the same = Mark frequency whether the REV is pushed or not, is that anything to do = with it. Ed From: g3zjo=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RTTY test transmission On 05/03/2013 19:43, Graham wrote:=20 Is the shift reversed ? G.. ?? No. Ed From: g3zjo=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:11 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RTTY test transmission Also Grabber http://www.g3zjo.talktalk.net/lfgrabber.html Wide View, showing your signal. Eddie On 05/03/2013 17:06, Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer wrote:=20 Minto,=20 I'm excited. Was that you a few minutes ago?=20 I was writing in real time some stuff to my program which sent = the stuff in RTTY immediately. The TX was in idle mode during that time. = suddenly someone answered! "big brother is watching you" and so. Was = that you?? It looks like my PA is blown up once again. It is simply not = designed for a key-down transmission, so the idle mode is not ideal, = except i'm using a fan. Now i will once again replace 2x IRFZ48N and be = on air in 1 hour or earlier. Let us try the QSO then again, OK? :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CE1A50.1298C230 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
I also discovered I had to use the REV = button on=20 fldigi to copy Stefan correctly. This was because my oscillator setting = in CW is=20 on the 'wrong' side (yes, I had the RX in CW mode).
Every burst of transmission lost the = first 'T' in=20 TEST, maybe an idea to send 'V V V' or something at the start to allow = the=20 system to lock.
Was most excellent copy anyway much of = the=20 time.
Didn't hear anything of the GM station = on CW, but=20 maybe closed down too early. Hope we get another chance with that=20 one!
Stefan, if you're reading this, called = you several=20 times when you were CQing in CW a few evenings back, but my 25W did not = get to=20 you. Also heard G3PDN calling you and you didn't hear him either. No = idea who or=20 where G3PDN is, not on QRZ.
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent.=20 JO01MI.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 = 12:28=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RTTY test=20 transmission

I think mark is   high , shift  hf  = from  space=20 , fldigi    has mark high as well  ,  =20 logging  default  is  mark=3Dqrg  , I could not = get fldigi=20 to  print  , but  mmtty (new  v)  did  = with=20 the  rev   button -in- 
 
how is  Stefan  generating   rtty  , is=20 there  a  mixer involved  ?
 
G..
 

From: g3zjo
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 11:19 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RTTY test = transmission

On 05/03/2013 22:14, Graham wrote:=20
why is the  'REV'  button   'in'  on=20 MMTTY   then     mark =3D 1163 =20 Hz   with   477 usb  dial set  = ?
 
G.
Corr I haven't run that for years. Hmm, it = seems to=20 indicate the same Mark frequency whether the REV is pushed or not, is = that=20 anything to do with it.

Ed

From: g3zjo
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RTTY test = transmission

On 05/03/2013 19:43, Graham wrote:=20
Is the  shift  reversed ?
 
G..

?? No.

Ed

From: g3zjo
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 7:11 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RTTY test = transmission

Also Grabber http://www.g3zjo.talktalk.net/lfgrabber.html=

Wide=20 View, showing your signal.

Eddie

On 05/03/2013 = 17:06, Stefan=20 Sch=C3=A4fer wrote:=20
Minto,

I'm excited. Was that you a few = minutes ago?=20
I was writing in real time some stuff to my program which = sent the=20 stuff in RTTY immediately. The TX was in idle mode during that = time.=20 suddenly someone answered! "big brother is watching you" and so. = Was=20 that you??
It looks like my PA is blown up once again. It is = simply=20 not designed for a key-down transmission, so the idle mode is = not ideal,=20 except i'm using a fan. Now i will once again replace 2x IRFZ48N = and be=20 on air in 1 hour or earlier. Let us try the QSO then again, OK?=20 :-)

73,=20 = Stefan/DK7FC



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