Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9D4C33800008C; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 14:56:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U25fM-0002va-3H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 19:55:52 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U25fL-0002vR-MX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 19:55:51 +0000 Received: from nina.ucs.mun.ca ([134.153.232.76]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U25fF-00017p-U2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 19:55:50 +0000 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.232.153]) by nina.ucs.mun.ca (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r13JtL3Q021001 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:25:21 -0330 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:25:21 -0330 (NST) From: jcraig@mun.ca X-X-Sender: jcraig@plato.ucs.mun.ca To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MUN-Disclaimer: http://www.mun.ca/cc/policies/elect_communications_disclaimer_2012.php X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Roger and Laurence, The '817 that I'm using is quite stable without the tcxo. I've used it for receive only and found that it stayed on QRG within 0.1 Hz for several hours on 137 kHz. Perhaps the heat from the TX is causing drift. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 66d07794ca19cd68f7d6cc289cd4ac18 Subject: Re: LF: 817 drift Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4116510ec105071b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hello Roger and Laurence, The '817 that I'm using is quite stable without the tcxo. I've used it for receive only and found that it stayed on QRG within 0.1 Hz for several hours on 137 kHz. Perhaps the heat from the TX is causing drift. The sensitivity on 137 is not so good as we all know... 73 Joe VO1NA On Sun, 3 Feb 2013, Laurence KL1 X wrote: > > Roger - I had the same drift issue and added the txco with little improvement - best was when unit was powered driven by lower voltage - think mine is set around 9.6V at the moment and less heat..it also sits in the cool garage...think Dex also found the same > > Laurence KL 1 X > > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 19:23:35 +0000 > From: rogerlapthorn@gmail.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk > Subject: LF: WSPR15 - sort of success > > After several attempts Tom G8HUH managed to decode my WSPR15 transmission on 137.607kHz this evening. As the FT817 was drifting around 4Hz in the 15 minute TX slot with the FT817 on 1837.607kHz (I was using a stabilised sig gen for the LO at 1.7MHz), I think this was messing up the decodes as Tom only gave me -32 and -34dB S/N whereas I have been getting some 6dB BETTER than this with the WSPR2 transmissions. > > > If WSPR15 is going to succeed for me I need a more stable rig (or a 0.5ppm TXCO fitted to the FT817) or a fan to force cool the FT817 - even when running 500mW! > > I'll leave the rig on for a little while longer, but will probably revert to WSPR2 for the rest of the evening. > > > Thank you Tom G8HUH, and Trevor G0KTN, for working with me for the last couple of hours to get this as good as I could. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > > http://qss2.blogspot.com/ > http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM > > > This electronic communication is governed by the terms and conditions at http://www.mun.ca/cc/policies/electronic_communications_disclaimer_2012.php