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Content preview: Oh well , worth a try ...... :) Don't see a band plan putting a beacon in the middle of the band , so at some time in the future , I think it will happen , best to grab a good slot while the going is good ! was on the same qrg as Op , but with the wspr-15 , that has stopped the dual monitoring , with 4 audio bands over lapping, but is 15 suited to 477 ? if not then , that makes things simple (in the future) [...] Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.29 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE X-Scan-Signature: f3d1da032404cd5ad9531631c09e3b44 Subject: Re: LF: Plans for 630m RX-TX experiments from EU to VK and VK to EU Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d409051228d9f7f64 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Oh well , worth a try ...... :) Don't see a band plan putting a beacon in the middle of the band , so at some time in the future , I think it will happen , best to grab a good slot while the going is good ! was on the same qrg as Op , but with the wspr-15 , that has stopped the dual monitoring , with 4 audio bands over lapping, but is 15 suited to 477 ? if not then , that makes things simple (in the future) 73 -G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dimitrios Tsifakis" Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:00 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Plans for 630m RX-TX experiments from EU to VK and VK to EU > Hi G, > > the gang down under doesn't like the top of the band - too noisy. The > consensus so far is to switch back to 473.5 kc USB which results in an > RX frequency of 475000R. > > 73, Dimitris > > 2013/2/19 Graham : >> I have a better idea >> >> If the gang down under, now the undisputed wspr DX's migrate to >> the >> top of the band , then others will surely follow >> >> Then changing mode and running data can be done without retuning >> the >> Ae and leaves the middle of the band clearer for other more >> abstract >> past times like slow ssb or other such things >> >> G.. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Dimitrios Tsifakis" >> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:25 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: Plans for 630m RX-TX experiments from EU to VK and VK to >> EU >> >> >>> Hi Stefan, >>> >>> when I said "we" in my previous email, I was referring to VK amateurs. >>> That makes "you" the European amateurs. :-) >>> >>> I don't have any suggestions. I will give it a bit of thought, and >>> consult with the other VK stations and get back to you. >>> >>> 73, Dimtris >>> >>> >>> 2013/2/18 Stefan Schäfer : >>>> >>>> Same message, updated subject. >>>> >>>> Am 17.02.2013 23:39, schrieb Stefan Schäfer: >>>> >>>> Hi Dimitris, >>>> >>>> Thanks for the informations. >>>> Well, if 475.7 kHz is not a good choice due to QRM in VK, then "we" >>>> should >>>> discuss where to go. >>>> >>>> "We", that must be explained. I think that "we" are those active >>>> stations >>>> who either want to try to receive a station from VK or want to try to >>>> get >>>> a >>>> decode in VK. >>>> >>>> Of course i would like to join those active TX stations on MF and i >>>> like >>>> to >>>> try if i can leave a trace or decode, not only in the sand :-) I >>>> thought >>>> about running QRSS-10 near 476.170 kHz, as done in the last months. >>>> This >>>> would allow me to run the TX during the complete possible time, arround >>>> 15:30...18:00. Or, alternatively, i would like to run WSPR-2 in 100% TX >>>> mode. That would at least require splitted RX and TX bands on both >>>> sides, >>>> otherwise there will be complaints. There will be complaints anyway, im >>>> afraid... >>>> >>>> So maybe it would be an idea to define a special slot just for this >>>> path >>>> and >>>> time and active (RX and TX) stations so they can all run WSPR-2 in 100% >>>> mode. Of course there must be stations who are RXing exclusively but >>>> there >>>> are only a few who will TX anyway. >>>> >>>> Any recommendations / ideas? Should we discuss in direct emails >>>> including >>>> all those from VK who are not member of this group? >>>> >>>> I would start the MF experiment tomorrow. >>>> >>>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> >> >