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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Jay, as the bandwidth of the Op 32 signal is only +-0.125 Hz, the 0.145 Hz spacing to Lessay / Anthorn should be sufficient. For coherent and stable signals, the detection threshold seems to be around -46 dB in 2.5 kHz, equivalent to -50 dB on the Opera SNR scale. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [64.12.100.31 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.6 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: cd79e98bb57cf38a756c15469b5a993e Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: WD2XNS OP32 136.000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005B_01CE0FCC.9D4876C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mj04.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : fail X-AOL-OVERRIDE-PIK-REASON: Y x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b98512560441ed5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01CE0FCC.9D4876C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay, as the bandwidth of the Op 32 signal is only +-0.125 Hz, the 0.145 Hz = spacing to Lessay / Anthorn should be sufficient. =20 For coherent and stable signals, the detection threshold seems to be = around -46 dB in 2.5 kHz, equivalent to -50 dB on the Opera SNR scale. Best 73, Markus ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:33 AM Subject: LF: Re: Re: WD2XNS OP32 136.000 Markus Transmitter frequency is GPS disciplined and phase coherent. Let me know = if you would like me to move to a new frequency. What do you think your minimum s/n is with that setup? Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 6:25 PM Subject: LF: Re: WD2XNS OP32 136.000 Jay, good, I'll try to catch you. Assuming your QRG is accurate, it would = fit just snugly between two visible Loran lines: 137579.8544 Hz (GRI 6731: Lessay, Soustons, Anthorn, Sylt) 137581.2500 Hz (GRI 8000: Bryansk, Petrozavodsk, Slonim, Simferopol, = Syzran) Good luck, Markus (DF6NM) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:58 PM Subject: LF: WD2XNS OP32 136.000 WD2XNS will be transmitting in OP32 tonight on 136000 + 1580. Reports = appreciated. Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ------=_NextPart_000_005B_01CE0FCC.9D4876C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jay,
 
as the bandwidth of the Op 32 signal is = only=20 +-0.125 Hz, the 0.145 Hz spacing to Lessay / Anthorn should be=20 sufficient.
 
For coherent and stable signals, the = detection=20 threshold seems to be around -46 dB in 2.5 kHz, equivalent to -50 = dB on the=20 Opera SNR scale.
 
Best 73,
Markus
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 12:33 AM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: WD2XNS OP32 136.000

Markus
 
Transmitter frequency is GPS = disciplined and=20 phase coherent. Let me know if you would like me to move to a new=20 frequency.
 
What do you think your minimum s/n = is with=20 that setup?
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  = WE2XGR/2
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, = 2013 6:25=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: WD2XNS OP32=20 136.000

Jay,
 
good, I'll try to catch you. = Assuming your QRG is accurate, it would fit = just snugly=20 between two visible Loran lines:
 
137579.8544 Hz (GRI 6731: Lessay, = Soustons,=20 Anthorn, Sylt)
137581.2500 Hz (GRI 8000: Bryansk, = Petrozavodsk,=20 Slonim, Simferopol, Syzran)
 
Good luck,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:58 PM
Subject: LF: WD2XNS OP32 136.000

WD2XNS will be transmitting in OP32 tonight on 136000 + = 1580.=20 Reports appreciated.

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS =20 WE2XGR/2

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