Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id AB0DD380000B8; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 19:10:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U52b0-0004rv-Cp for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:15:34 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U52az-0004rm-Rh for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:15:33 +0000 Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com ([209.85.223.170]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U52ax-00054K-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:15:32 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id c11so8468701ieb.1 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:15:09 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=90TTRJU72q+9IL9al7xonpqsWJNFfVpMv7sps5A2CyU=; b=cT5ptJlL6LlIPtQPE7UiM2+VkjlYlfLzauKU5rx5txbFeBgEY+6ghBhqedr3v1QdYZ Cq1RQTNwuDzAWo85Ram9gxH8DVfCavstDnSKdOwlhSlqYZCBnVmFi2DXJgGmJacZzGOi RbJRIX4MbOfEwzje42EQtUaioqcRGSRFJu5BI7Ju2KTS9SPz/LX1KvTmoxyeGB89YUff FaD4FKf/BL5H8Pe9jA5iFPk329uuMqIbxZUsQdJOQnrsjiCAYAL6uZ3ekswL7z0TacT4 SHqM+OjlYE35TGBDYabFKKmXnNDmrDnoMeszkekOf+IhWA5QYnuJStV0jIrSgQRcuyjL 3/wA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.181.136 with SMTP id dw8mr14977268igc.39.1360624509263; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:15:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.18.234 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:15:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <51197759.6090001@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 18:15:09 -0500 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Graham, Small (but important) correction, US experimental stations have been making QSOs (not just beacons) for more than 5 years now. I agree that there really is no point trying to reach Tasmania with 1W ERP ! [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.223.170 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (wd2xgj[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: d5ac66e7920295f519efeb68ecc59e6f Subject: Re: LF: Considerations about wide DX experiments on 630m and tonites QRSS-60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae93408a38c1f6304d57b14f2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_EXPERIENCE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-de06.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40ce511988825a8f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --14dae93408a38c1f6304d57b14f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham, Small (but important) correction, US experimental stations have been making QSOs (not just beacons) for more than 5 years now. I agree that there really is no point trying to reach Tasmania with 1W ERP = ! 73 Warren K2ORS On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Graham wrote: > Too late S, , with 1 watt erp , game over > > Only the the USA beacons and Gus now have access to the erp / > power needed > > G// > > ------------------------------**-------------------- > From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > > > Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:57 PM > To: **; "Vasily Savchenko" ; > "Garry and Linda Hess" ; "Douglas D. Williams" < > kb4oer@gmail.com>; "Andy - KU4XR" ; "Edgar J Twining" < > edgarjtwining@**virginbroadband.com.au > > > Subject: LF: Considerations about wide DX experiments on 630m and tonites > QRSS-60 > > > MF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-) >> >> Edgar in Tasmania was recently asking if i have some plans about DX >> experiments on 630m. Well that is a path of > 16000 km. However we do no= t >> have real experience if that is easier than 2200m or rather impossible. >> >> At least i know that there was not even a single decode by UA0SNV in my >> MF WSPR and QRSS tests so far, while it is no problem on LF (OK my MF >> signal is weaker than my LF signal). Thus i would guess that it is much >> harder to get some traces of a signal on 630m. We will try anyway! >> >> I'm starting to run a QRSS-60 transmission on 476.172 kHz (+- a few Hz) >> for the night. Maybe someone across the pond will catch something. We, o= r >> at least i still have no experience about the QSB problem on very slow Q= RSS >> transmissions on MF. It would be interesting to see a spectrogram. >> >> On air in a few minutes. >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> PS: No, not only beacon transmissions, i've just had a > 1 hour long CW >> QSO with PA0LCE and DK6SX/p! Also contacts to OK2BVG and S57A. >> >> > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --14dae93408a38c1f6304d57b14f2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Graham,
=A0 =A0 Small (but important) correction= , US experimental stations have been making QSOs (not just beacons) for mor= e than 5 years now.
I agree that there really is no point t= rying to reach Tasmania with 1W ERP !

73 Warren K2ORS

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On Mon, = Feb 11, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
Too late S, =A0, with =A01 =A0watt =A0erp = =A0, game =A0over

Only =A0the =A0the =A0USA beacons =A0 =A0and =A0Gus =A0now =A0have =A0acces= s to =A0the =A0erp / power needed

G//

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From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heide= lberg.de>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 10:57 PM
To: <r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; "Vasily Savchenko" &l= t;ua0snv@yahoo.com>; "Garry and Linda Hess" <k3siw@sbcglobal.net>; "Douglas D. Wil= liams" <kb4oe= r@gmail.com>; "Andy - KU4XR" <ku4xr@yahoo.com>; "Edgar J Twining&= quot; <edgarjtwining@virginbroadband.com.au>
Subject: LF: Considerations about wide DX experiments on 630m and tonites Q= RSS-60


MF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)

Edgar in Tasmania was recently asking if i have some plans about DX experim= ents on 630m. Well that is a path of > 16000 km. However we do not have = real experience if that is easier than 2200m or rather impossible.

At least i know that there was not even a single decode by UA0SNV in my MF = WSPR and QRSS tests so far, while it is no problem on LF (OK my MF signal i= s weaker than my LF signal). Thus i would guess that it is much harder to g= et some traces of a signal on 630m. We will try anyway!

I'm starting to run a QRSS-60 transmission on 476.172 kHz (+- a few Hz)= for the night. Maybe someone across the pond will catch something. We, or = at least i still have no experience about the QSB problem on very slow QRSS= transmissions on MF. It would be interesting to see a spectrogram.

On air in a few minutes.

73, Stefan/DK7FC

PS: No, not only beacon transmissions, i've just had a > 1 hour long= CW QSO with PA0LCE and DK6SX/p! Also contacts to OK2BVG and S57A.





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= 73 Warren K2ORS
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XGJ
=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WD2XSH/23
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XEB/2=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1

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