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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi G, the gang down under doesn't like the top of the band - too noisy. The consensus so far is to switch back to 473.5 kc USB which results in an RX frequency of 475000R. 73, Dimitris [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.223.179 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dtsifakis[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: bde53fa3678f346afe39dd99e3e185db Subject: Re: LF: Plans for 630m RX-TX experiments from EU to VK and VK to EU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-dc06.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408651229125776f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi G, the gang down under doesn't like the top of the band - too noisy. The consensus so far is to switch back to 473.5 kc USB which results in an RX frequency of 475000R. 73, Dimitris 2013/2/19 Graham : > I have a better idea > > If the gang down under, now the undisputed wspr DX's migrate to = the > top of the band , then others will surely follow > > Then changing mode and running data can be done without retuning = the > Ae and leaves the middle of the band clearer for other more abstr= act > past times like slow ssb or other such things > > G.. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Dimitrios Tsifakis" > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 11:25 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Plans for 630m RX-TX experiments from EU to VK and VK to= EU > > >> Hi Stefan, >> >> when I said "we" in my previous email, I was referring to VK amateurs. >> That makes "you" the European amateurs. :-) >> >> I don't have any suggestions. I will give it a bit of thought, and >> consult with the other VK stations and get back to you. >> >> 73, Dimtris >> >> >> 2013/2/18 Stefan Sch=E4fer : >>> >>> Same message, updated subject. >>> >>> Am 17.02.2013 23:39, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: >>> >>> Hi Dimitris, >>> >>> Thanks for the informations. >>> Well, if 475.7 kHz is not a good choice due to QRM in VK, then "we" >>> should >>> discuss where to go. >>> >>> "We", that must be explained. I think that "we" are those active statio= ns >>> who either want to try to receive a station from VK or want to try to g= et >>> a >>> decode in VK. >>> >>> Of course i would like to join those active TX stations on MF and i lik= e >>> to >>> try if i can leave a trace or decode, not only in the sand :-) I though= t >>> about running QRSS-10 near 476.170 kHz, as done in the last months. Thi= s >>> would allow me to run the TX during the complete possible time, arround >>> 15:30...18:00. Or, alternatively, i would like to run WSPR-2 in 100% TX >>> mode. That would at least require splitted RX and TX bands on both side= s, >>> otherwise there will be complaints. There will be complaints anyway, im >>> afraid... >>> >>> So maybe it would be an idea to define a special slot just for this pat= h >>> and >>> time and active (RX and TX) stations so they can all run WSPR-2 in 100% >>> mode. Of course there must be stations who are RXing exclusively but >>> there >>> are only a few who will TX anyway. >>> >>> Any recommendations / ideas? Should we discuss in direct emails includi= ng >>> all those from VK who are not member of this group? >>> >>> I would start the MF experiment tomorrow. >>> >>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> >