Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0A3D2380000AD; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:26:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U7Dc6-0008M1-Et for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 23:25:42 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U7Dc5-0008Ls-Sw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 23:25:41 +0000 Received: from mail-ie0-f179.google.com ([209.85.223.179]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U7Dc3-00065q-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 23:25:40 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id k11so6547192iea.38 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:25:17 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=v7wsLFvNsF2PuEeaBvnhZqh80IPs9JW+iSQL0UvRPGQ=; b=zZ/4MyxTQ4CuR45LGX3IbNkXDteIF8R6BJ0+nNtTe+dXBej2CS+FxL/YOuAzaLwIH3 MHLjwh1iDe5Nf6X8nWUBxONHVjr72IPPpvpNf1xMwzVjTqAU/fBwpPaRYnWuJnM38kKm vjCpS3I4bsNuSo1yrTVDQv3e4obsvoY5EzAMKdpZjWHS/8zFfwx+m7gyOY86oJ2E/q2b mktYSjUlF1wNKz2A1ctW1Z70TqLrdGwefIUV3eeO8RcJR+iLmu3EHfBV9iSqDv7IKpQ9 V6KbwbORv0ydSBHBiGHQw/mRWFiquprYtQrqS4BBg8fgUbT3ANrXBozktlOXrMUm0QoU CPwA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.181.201 with SMTP id dy9mr4307893igc.18.1361143517340; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.28.47 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:25:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51215C84.6030002@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <2282795.WEYH53gDWV@fbox.localdomain> <0739D17A209E4085947C84C3590A8B5F@F6CNIHP> <511FFC06.3090906@psk31.plus.com> <0537FE7E5A0C4521A4BC62EF690FA911@Black> <51215C1C.80906@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <51215C84.6030002@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 10:25:17 +1100 Message-ID: From: Dimitrios Tsifakis To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, when I said "we" in my previous email, I was referring to VK amateurs. That makes "you" the European amateurs. :-) I don't have any suggestions. I will give it a bit of thought, and consult with the other VK stations and get back to you. 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That makes "you" the European amateurs. :-) I don't have any suggestions. I will give it a bit of thought, and consult with the other VK stations and get back to you. 73, Dimtris 2013/2/18 Stefan Sch=E4fer : > Same message, updated subject. > > Am 17.02.2013 23:39, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: > > Hi Dimitris, > > Thanks for the informations. > Well, if 475.7 kHz is not a good choice due to QRM in VK, then "we" shoul= d > discuss where to go. > > "We", that must be explained. I think that "we" are those active stations > who either want to try to receive a station from VK or want to try to get= a > decode in VK. > > Of course i would like to join those active TX stations on MF and i like = to > try if i can leave a trace or decode, not only in the sand :-) I thought > about running QRSS-10 near 476.170 kHz, as done in the last months. This > would allow me to run the TX during the complete possible time, arround > 15:30...18:00. Or, alternatively, i would like to run WSPR-2 in 100% TX > mode. That would at least require splitted RX and TX bands on both sides, > otherwise there will be complaints. There will be complaints anyway, im > afraid... > > So maybe it would be an idea to define a special slot just for this path = and > time and active (RX and TX) stations so they can all run WSPR-2 in 100% > mode. Of course there must be stations who are RXing exclusively but ther= e > are only a few who will TX anyway. > > Any recommendations / ideas? Should we discuss in direct emails including > all those from VK who are not member of this group? > > I would start the MF experiment tomorrow. > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC