Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B8ACF380000DA; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 15:22:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U7AZ3-0006bN-10 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:10:21 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U7AZ2-0006bE-Aa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:10:20 +0000 Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com ([209.85.223.180]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U7AYz-0005Hy-L7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:10:19 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id bn7so6465372ieb.25 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:09:55 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XavGdsbrwZqSUf6l/POKgAIfhQYdlm41NHZJQ04QhkQ=; b=DYoMTg046d1fKFrnaQUHGFHCK0Gt45gYwbS93KbV3szBovJdTC5+ij4TsycGaZf4DV dMeuRcg4r5Lvra+sMhEep+TRJIW48kAbLpHsOgLzp2tX4oHTMFxkAOQ/sB357v3ZMOjT PGClTczYQfmhnFkj7uC1k3yeGu8on6HQaHCjSD4ynk8T05yEYrIxCoT85tgy8QORkZTT p+9dhH5MNlDNkrh5Ygz/29m3UF/2yPWHF2KKJB2e85CFgeUH8cC3YJLzVyutGmCbFDn2 19/UQpudkqkuIWHmBO/7Y9m7YjT/e6qyEUIvQ8l3+uMzjAh2O0buxsuOQWDaIfj1IucP kWbA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.17.201 with SMTP id q9mr5937984igd.107.1361131795291; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:09:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.28.47 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 12:09:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <0537FE7E5A0C4521A4BC62EF690FA911@Black> References: <2282795.WEYH53gDWV@fbox.localdomain> <0739D17A209E4085947C84C3590A8B5F@F6CNIHP> <511FFC06.3090906@psk31.plus.com> <0537FE7E5A0C4521A4BC62EF690FA911@Black> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 07:09:55 +1100 Message-ID: From: Dimitrios Tsifakis To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: G'day Markus, just a quick clarification - it wasn't me, it was Dale VK1DSH that transmitted the famous packet received in France. Since that incident, we changed our WSPR frequency to comply with the European one and we will be transmitting as often as we can in order to find out if this can be repeated! Dale is radiating similar amounts of RF to me, which I calculate to be around 0.5 W. 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Since that incident, we changed our WSPR frequency to comply with the European one and we will be transmitting as often as we can in order to find out if this can be repeated! Dale is radiating similar amounts of RF to me, which I calculate to be around 0.5 W. 73, Dimitris 2013/2/17 Markus Vester : > Wow, that's excellent! I wouldn't have thought this is possible. > Congratulations to both Andy and Dimitris! > > Best 73, > Markus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Andr=E9 Guy=E9 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:08 PM > Subject: LF: VK1DSH reception in France WSPR 2 on 630m > > From F6CNI : > > > > Hello, I give you some info about the MF reception of Dale VK1DSH signal > here in France. > > > > For 2 weeks, the propagation between EU / VK on 160 meters is great, and = I > had some CW QSO barefoot. I think that for this DX path the propagation o= n > MF may be similar than on 160 m ? > > > > At the date of this event, between the Dale and Andy QTH, the best moment= is > a bit before the grey line sunset in France, when the sun elevation is ab= out > 3=B0. But on 160 meters that needs especially good propagation and the op= ening > is rare and very short, 5 to 15 minutes only. This moment is now around 1= 645 > TU in my QTH. A bit later, when the sunrise at VK land in grey line, that= is > a second short period for success, around 1920 TU. That is true only for > south to north hemisphere DX. > > > > For north / north path (EU to east coast or centre of States) the best > moment is simply in the middle of the night. But perhaps for longer path,= as > west coast the sunrise in Europe is better ? > > > > My garden is quite large but in centre of the city, a noisy location. > Antennas for LF / MF are an 85 meters long Inverted L and a K9AY. RX are > IC7200, IC706MK2 and a FT1000MP. > > > > Only 3 miles away from my home, there is a golf. That is my second hobby. > Due to the very bad weather in France for one month, there is a very litt= le > player=92s activity. So a week ago I hang on border of the golf a simple > beverage using a very light wire. About 500 or a bit more meters long aim= ing > to 80=B0 azimuth. For the test yesterday I had in my car the IC7200 on 47= 3.5 > USB and a portable computer (only 2 hours of autonomy) with 3G. I stay on > place only during 40 minutes. That is the story. I catch one spot from Da= le. > > > > What that means ? The Beverage and not power line helps a lot giving a ve= ry > low noise level. The use of the 473.5 USB QRG is good, because there is n= ot > any QRM on this frequency. And certainly a great propagation day, so I wa= s > lucky listening the good frequency at the best moment. What about the use= of > long period of TXing, as WSPR15 or QRSS ? For this very long path, I thin= k > that the opening duration time is too short for that use ? > > > > Now, as Dale said to me in a mail, one spot is not sufficient to valid th= at. > So, I=92ll try again but it is necessary for me to hurry, because the bev= erage > antenna must be dismounted in a short time. > > > > For information, I use some codes when I am receiving LF, MF or 160m: > > > > F6CNI : normal, listening only WSPR2 > F6CNI/2 : I am listening both WSPR2 and WSPR15 (giving F6CNI/15 reports f= or > WSPR15) > F6CNI/RX1 and F6CNI/RX2 : I use 2 RX with 2 RX antennas > F6CNI/BEV : one RX is using the Beverage on the Golf location. > > > > Best 73. Sorry my poor english. > > > > F6CNI Andy. JN19QB > > > > > From: Markus Vester > Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:53 AM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m > > There's a thread in the VK 600m group discussing this unusual wspr spot: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/600m/message/6415 > > Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: g3zjo > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:37 PM > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m > > Andy > > Was this direct? > > 2013-02-16 16:44 VK1DSH 0.475078 -29 0 QF44ms > 50 F6CNI/BEV JN19qb 16832 310 > > Eddie G3ZJO >