Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DABE4380000E9; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:27:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U7UTZ-0005zp-36 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:26:01 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U7UTY-0005zg-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:26:00 +0000 Received: from mail-qa0-f46.google.com ([209.85.216.46]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U7UTW-0001En-1A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:25:59 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id o13so1392029qaj.19 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:25:35 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EB8sa1IXOBzE7G/F7nNA7wYC6dc1xZtoj2eD4xzgtdE=; b=jeYzoZIKXVcB/C7RkxqYEd6KJaSYXE81+3J+9dOhAr+tK0svYsB+JJcZSNhOHhr5CC 0l/JTW7gCySaDfzTbK3hQAcz7igRM2OS72hkVrsu+H65eAdvs+WJjy0pPpShXxu/vAYY 9vXPbeozOyZjXCvPIoHtbL3tvvwUaRDRLsuVvYiHwSXs94ACYzfdHftksrnkyEAJgZ6K utHhuH+VPIr2awRuuoxj2QEAyeUOh2+eKqz6/F4Bf7qnNpiZr93IY+FI1/SV79eegdMm BmCECkv6aun+gGw1mKqUnCyLsE9xZrKuEm1WXejLOD8I+6hX461FVRY6CzOx/rItmu6y p8pQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.205.19 with SMTP id fo19mr839961qcb.6.1361208335739; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:25:35 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.201.228 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 09:25:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3751D15C489E45289657A49A3266CF42@AGB> References: <01c201ce0df6$fca68350$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <01d001ce0df7$ec018990$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <3751D15C489E45289657A49A3266CF42@AGB> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:25:35 +0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Quite so Graham. Many are plagued by unbelievable noise levels these days. It would be too much to expect Mal to try to empathise and suggest helpful ways of mitigating this. I just wonder how Mal would fare living in an urban semi with a 40 foot garden like mine? 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Many are plagued by unbelievable noise levels these days. It would be too much to expect Mal to try to empathise and suggest helpful ways of mitigating this. I just wonder how Mal would fare living in an urban semi with a 40 foot garden like mine? 73s Roger G3XBM On 18 February 2013 17:01, Graham wrote: > ** > May be , may be not Mal > > The system is reading the s/n at the Rx and not the field > strength ........ depends on the local noise level , rst 159 or > 599 , carrier still S9 , 1= qrm 5= no qrm > *From:* mal hamilton > *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2013 4:49 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Re: POOR ANTENNAS > > Example > I am receiving PA3EGO + 2dB another UK stn is showing -22 at a shorter > distance. A difference of 24 dB > and this station says he is an Expert!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* mal hamilton > *To:* rsgb > *Sent:* Monday, February 18, 2013 4:42 PM > *Subject:* LF: POOR ANTENNAS > > MF > One thing the wspr DB shows is how poor some Receivers/Antennas are > comparing like with like approximately same distances from Transmitter. > > g3kev > > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm --0016e68f9f21512adf04d6030339 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Quite so Graham.

Many are pla= gued by unbelievable noise levels these days. It would be too much to expec= t Mal to try to empathise and suggest helpful ways of mitigating this.

I just wonder how Mal would fare living in an urban semi wit= h a 40 foot garden like mine?

73s
Roger G= 3XBM


On 18 February 2013 17:01, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
May be , may be not=A0 Mal
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The system is=A0 reading=A0 the=A0 s/n=A0=A0 at the=A0=20 Rx=A0=A0 and=A0 not the=A0=A0 field=A0 strength ........=A0=20 depends on the=A0 local=A0 noise level ,=A0=A0 rst=A0=A0=20 159=A0 or =A0599=A0 , carrier=A0 still=A0 S9=A0 ,=A0=A0=20 1=3D qrm=A0=A0=A0=A0 5=3D no=A0 qrm

Example
I am receiving PA3EGO + 2dB another UK stn is sho= wing -22=20 at a shorter distance. A difference of 24 dB
and this station says he is an Expert!!
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----- Original Message -----
To: r= sgb
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:4= 2=20 PM
Subject: LF: POOR ANTENNAS

MF
One thing the wspr=A0DB shows is how poor some= =20 Receivers/Antennas are comparing like with like approximately same distan= ces=20 from Transmitter.
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g3kev
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