Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3E4B03800012D; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:52:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U2rMq-00035v-HO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:51:56 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U2rMp-00035m-TB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:51:55 +0000 Received: from mail-qc0-f181.google.com ([209.85.216.181]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U2rMn-0001Jj-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:51:54 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id a22so283782qcs.12 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 14:51:31 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Ks/GLKSFLFxME25fLvd3XPSM5rEuNtkCw4DFPLiodCE=; b=YmQuZhZJRaWheETJKWxJ/n6aGuuE9PpyOhw0+WVzDoNFRM3I6WM/8Ue+4Np/+L8xMu FLE744QsAEo7SxReABcml6DcMrABY51Cr7UzLXDlXOE3uIDBORQpfkZmojFIUMDzAgDn O6pYdXpAuSaiGefo80+e+2iF8/CFDUsm8UFcJNCjIdce5pL0JX0R+Sz//Zdg4Qk9sFql rXnj7vOLICIain5Cha+/Gs99qg8GntTPGKOm4FG7pygJ2ldwXL8R2PWeP1cJvXPtxMdq rwTwgKyrk7vtj+dRtn9KK2F2+kTlxEgJBD1778ramMbMy57tkftI5dqYNlfVNbBhFUe8 CN3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.216.9 with SMTP id hg9mr20043690qab.44.1360104691401; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 14:51:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.201.228 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:51:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 22:51:31 +0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dimitris, On LF and MF where the EIRP is very much lower than the RF power output from the transmitter, the accepted protocol is to specify EIRP in the WSPR database. Incidentally, please will you change the links on your website to the G3XBM 472kHz transverter design? I have moved my pages and the 472kHz transverter page is now at https://sites.google.com/site/g3xbmqrp3/mflf/472khz_tvtr . The older page, although currently accessible, will not be public for much longer. 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Incidentally, please will you change the links on your website to the G3XBM 472kHz transverter design? I have moved my pages and the 472kHz transverter page is now at https://sites.google.com/site/g3xbmqrp3/mflf/472khz_tvtr . The older page, although currently accessible, will not be public for much longer. Today I also added my 137kHz TX transverter schematic at https://sites.google.com/site/g3xbmqrp3/mflf/137khz_tvrtr . This latter design is still a "work in progress" and this is the circuit as it is today. 73s Roger G3XBM On 5 February 2013 22:22, Dimitrios Tsifakis wrote: > Hi group, > > I was browsing the WSPR database for MF and noticed that I am the only > one declaring a 50 W power. My TX power output is 50 W, however the > radiate power is just a tiny fraction of 1 W. What is the protocol for > WSPR? Advertise the Pout or the EIRP? > > 73, Dimitris VK1SV > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM --20cf300512fefd052104d5020c97 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dimitris,

On LF and MF wh= ere the EIRP is very much lower than the RF power output from the transmitt= er, the accepted protocol is to specify EIRP in the WSPR database.

Incidentally, please will you change the links on your website to the= G3XBM 472kHz transverter design? I have moved my pages and the 472kHz tran= sverter page is now at https://sites.google.com/site/g3xbmqrp3/mflf/472khz_tvtr . The older page, although currently accessible, will not be public for = much longer.

Today I also added my 137kHz TX transverter schematic at https://sites.googl= e.com/site/g3xbmqrp3/mflf/137khz_tvrtr . This latter design is still a = "work in progress" and this is the circuit as it is today.

73s
Roger G3XBM


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On 5 February = 2013 22:22, Dimitrios Tsifakis <dtsifakis@gmail.com> wrote= :
Hi group,

I was browsing the WSPR database for MF and noticed that I am the only
one declaring a 50 W power. My TX power output is 50 W, however the
radiate power is just a tiny fraction of 1 W. What is the protocol for
WSPR? Advertise the Pout or the EIRP?

73, Dimitris VK1SV




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