Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D9EA438000087; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 18:50:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U13rr-00045q-0d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:48:31 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U13rq-00045h-Av for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:48:30 +0000 Received: from mail-qc0-f173.google.com ([209.85.216.173]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U13rl-0007hT-Cr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:48:29 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id b12so1514056qca.18 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:48:03 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WIhqwuPrRO6Xa/tWWuNQW5FPEN/2m0f8iYKABswPN4c=; b=h0pTyMntAUZOt0kpZSU7ar9OkuTehXIksggaP4ZwzLFIqDYDjujgEhlj3PcvlPbuBu edZAhO3IEdimvjhPJ5x9LYjF1CzK85y2P1SbzsNrbaz6b1zUkh7rXgmoa2E0+E70pW76 53wDeYEJdcRzhYA8xRJum0AnbkqT6iSC548UwkzekHzQeHbsZq/EU3pO4MBvr3z+Pr3v /Wyhu2x5lBscMnpIEljr7YNuWZlb1E3gVnwl5dCSxlMLM7HUyxmUqOkBQosUfe4LFsgb KRDYD7uYVoxp0BjYfjx+1bRI2ky+5e/zkksv/hjaiWyxXc2uAsmtzBATiI/pbII6/UTI 04mg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.59.48 with SMTP id w16mr12327947qeq.38.1359676083410; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:48:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.201.228 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jan 2013 15:48:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <510A93B8.4000208@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <5109921A.10101@psk31.plus.com> <937E72B3-2E36-4319-9E54-28F12868734E@gmail.com> <510A93B8.4000208@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 23:48:03 +0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: I have to fix the frequency drift first Stefan, but I will try WSPR15 shortly. 73s Roger G3XBM On 31 January 2013 15:54, Stefan Schäfer < wrote: [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.216.173 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rogerlapthorn[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 9cafc73d135491d75f4f47d39ed43841 Subject: Re: LF: 137.5kHz WSPR2 tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d88daf61a1604d49e414f X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mj04.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b98510b036106e3 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --047d7b6d88daf61a1604d49e414f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have to fix the frequency drift first Stefan, but I will try WSPR15 shortly. 73s Roger G3XBM On 31 January 2013 15:54, Stefan Sch=E4fer < Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: > Roger, > > Why not trying WSPR-15, just for the fun? There are a few new stations > such as G4FEC who is relatively local to you. I saw that UA0AET is copied > by UA0SNV, not a long time ago. Since UA0AET is a strong signal, there ma= y > be some success to the west! > I'll join in in the next slot, beginning 16 UTC... > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > PS: Just got some old RAM for my old PC where the LF/MF grabbers are > running on. It will rise the space from 2x256MB to 2x512MB. Maybe this > helps so that WSPR-15 works here too, RX wise... > > > > Am 31.01.2013 01:29, schrieb Roger Lapthorn: > > Thanks Eddie. >> >> I think WSPR2 is roughly equivalent to QRSS10, so some 5dB(?) better tha= n >> QRSS3. It is possible that people did not detect the QRSS3 signal becaus= e >> of this, but more probable that the "manual" decode required did not hap= pen. >> >> There is NO doubt in my mind that WSPR in all its flavours is an >> excellent research tool because of the Internet feedback. >> >> 73s >> Roger >> (137kHz WSPR2 still running overnight) >> >> On 30 Jan 2013, at 21:35, g3zjo wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi Roger >>> >>> I did take a look for you last night but QRM levels here, interference >>> like heavy theater curtains, means 136KHz is a no go area for me unless >>> whoever it is stops doing what ever it is. >>> >>> I am also doing it the difficult way still, running my 200uW TX on WSPR >>> and QRSS on 475KHz producing regular spots from the UK, DL, PA and F. >>> However confirming my previous tests the QRSS3 may as well not be there= . >>> Not one report received even from a UK station. >>> This is with the QRSS between WSPR transmissions in the WSPR window. If >>> the mode was the slightest bit comparable then surely it would produce = a >>> comment even if those seeing the signal cannot resolve a call sign or t= he >>> unique identification Morse symbol. >>> >>> I will now duck whilst it is mathematically proven that all who are >>> decoding the WSPR are copying the QRSS3 just fine.:-) >>> >>> Eddie >>> >>> On 30/01/2013 17:08, Roger Lapthorn wrote: >>> >>> >>>> My LF WSPR2 tests using the earth-electrode antenna and 30uW ERP max >>>> continue this evening. With 2 unique reports yesterday (G8HUH 250km = and >>>> M0GXM 18km, both multiple times), I'm hopeful that others will copy me= this >>>> evening. >>>> >>>> Please take a look for me if you get a chance. All spots really >>>> appreciated. >>>> >>>> 73s >>>> Roger G3XBM >>>> -- >>>> -- >>>> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >>>> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >>>> https://sites.google.com/site/**sub9khz/ >>>> http://qss2.blogspot.com/ >>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/**G3XBM >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM --047d7b6d88daf61a1604d49e414f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have to fix the frequency drift first Stefan, = but I will try WSPR15 shortly.

73s
Roger G3XBM


On 31 Janu= ary 2013 15:54, Stefan Sch=E4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.= uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
Roger,

Why not trying WSPR-15, just for the fun? There are a few new stations such= as G4FEC who is relatively local to you. I saw that UA0AET is copied by UA= 0SNV, not a long time ago. Since UA0AET is a strong signal, there may be so= me success to the west!
I'll join in in the next slot, beginning 16 UTC...

73, Stefan/DK7FC

PS: Just got some old RAM for my old PC where the LF/MF grabbers are runnin= g on. It will rise the space from 2x256MB to 2x512MB. Maybe this helps so t= hat WSPR-15 works here too, RX wise...



Am 31.01.2013 01:29, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:

Thanks Eddie.

I think WSPR2 is roughly equivalent to QRSS10, so some 5dB(?) better than Q= RSS3. It is possible that people did not detect the QRSS3 signal because of= this, but more probable that the "manual" decode required did no= t happen.

There is NO doubt in my mind that WSPR in all its flavours is an excellent = research tool because of the Internet feedback.

73s
Roger
(137kHz WSPR2 still running overnight)

On 30 Jan 2013, at 21:35, g3zjo<g3zjo@psk31.plus.com> =A0wrote:

=A0 =A0
Hi Roger

I did take a look for you last night but QRM levels here, interference like= heavy theater curtains, means 136KHz is a no go area for me unless whoever= it is stops doing what ever it is.

I am also doing it the difficult way still, running my 200uW TX on WSPR and= QRSS on 475KHz producing regular spots from the UK, DL, PA and F. However = confirming my previous tests the QRSS3 may as well not be there. Not one re= port received even from a UK station.
This is with the QRSS between WSPR transmissions in the WSPR window. If the= mode was the slightest bit comparable then surely it would produce a comme= nt even if those seeing the signal cannot resolve a call sign or the unique= identification Morse symbol.

I will now duck whilst it is mathematically proven that all who are decodin= g the WSPR are copying the QRSS3 just fine.:-)

Eddie

On 30/01/2013 17:08, Roger Lapthorn wrote:
=A0 =A0 =A0
My LF WSPR2 tests using the earth-electrode antenna and 30uW ERP max contin= ue this evening. =A0 With 2 unique reports yesterday (G8HUH 250km and M0GXM= 18km, both multiple times), I'm hopeful that others will copy me this = evening.

Please take a look for me if you get a chance. All spots really appreciated= .

73s
Roger G3XBM
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http://g3xbm-q= rp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk=
https:= //sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/
http://qss2.blogspo= t.com/
http://www.= youtube.com/user/G3XBM
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