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Content preview: Uwe, Peter and other VLFers - I ve shoved the very slow 8970 on the following snappers. http://kl7uk.com/VLFAlaska.html VLF only http://kl7uk.com/Alaska.html MF LF HF and VLF dependant on my viewing/requests [...] Content analysis details: (-0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.31 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hellozerohellozero[at]hotmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: e2b7e65dcf7cf6551ab81105a525fe0f Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c941c838-ef0f-49b9-acf4-ca9837d25035_" Subject: RE: LF: 0.003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970,022 Hz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db406510d5b9648df X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_c941c838-ef0f-49b9-acf4-ca9837d25035_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Uwe=2C Peter and other VLFers -=20 I ve shoved the very slow 8970 on the following snappers. http://kl7uk.com/VLFAlaska.html VLF only http://kl7uk.com/Alaska.html MF LF HF and VLF dependant on my viewi= ng/requests I see some odd goings on over the past 24hours around 19k=2C looks like som= e stepping stones going on - and it looks like the Alphas are doing some s= trange stuff too. I am on my standby soundcard which has a little more roll= off at HF after my Realtek died.=20 No signs yet Uwe but over the Pole hasnt been good on any band for a coupl= e of weeks. I still need to figure out the best FFT size and "decimete"r ratio as Im st= ill a bit clueless there - I need to do some more reading - Is it better to have a longer FFT input size and smaller decimate or say s= maller input size and larger decimate :-) ? Laurence KL 1 X Wasilla Alaska From: pa1sdb@amsat.org To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sat=2C 2 Feb 2013 10:55:20 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: 0.003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970=2C022 Hz O.K. thanks for info Uwe. You don't have to say sorry :-) It learns us again that a stable signal is very- very-=20 veryyyyy importand. My 424 uHz grabber shows your signal and=20 drift clear with connected pixels My 47 uHz grabber shows no connected=20 line/trace anymore. =20 Nice to see that the Frequency Error callibration=20 works so well in Spectum Lab. It seems that the Soundcard here is also rock stable=20 with help of that SR cal function. =20 73s Peter PA1SDB =20 www.qsl.net/pa1sdb =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From:=20 uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 =20 Sent: Saturday=2C February 02=2C 2013 10:10=20 AM Subject: Re: LF: 0.003 Hz drift DJ8WX at=20 8970=2C022 Hz =20 =20 No=2C Peter=2C my control capture shows the=20 same. Sri for that. Seems the GPS ant got=20 wet. I have to find=20 out. GL Uwe/dj8wx =20 Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Gesendet:=20 02.02.2013 09:52 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff:=20 LF: 0.003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970=2C022 Hz =20 =20 Hello Uwe=2C I'm not sure=2C but it looks like your=20 generator is not rock stable anymore since 19h45 UTC yesterday (1 Feb=20 13) It did drift down about 0.003=20 Hz. (Ha ha.... 0.003 Hz) Also possible that the trouble is here=20 ofcourse... Now (09h48) drifting back up to=20 8970.022 Hz =20 Best 73's Peter PA1SDB =20 www.qsl.net/pa1sdb = --_c941c838-ef0f-49b9-acf4-ca9837d25035_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Uwe=2C Peter and other VLFers -

I ve shoved the very slow 8970 on t= he following snappers.

http://kl7uk.com/VLFAlaska.html =3B = =3B =3B VLF only
http://kl7uk.com/Alaska.html =3B =3B = =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B =3B MF LF HF and VLF dependant on m= y viewing/requests

I see some odd goings on over the past 24hours ar= ound 19k=2C looks like some stepping stones going on - =3B and it looks= like the Alphas are doing some strange stuff too. I am on my standby sound= card which has a little more roll off at HF after my Realtek died.

=  =3BNo signs yet Uwe but over the Pole hasnt been good on any band for = a couple of weeks.

I still need to figure out the best FFT size and = "decimete"r ratio as Im still a bit clueless there - I need to do some more= reading -

 =3BIs it better to have a longer FFT input size and = smaller decimate or say smaller input size and larger decimate :-) ?
Laurence KL 1 X Wasilla Alaska

From: pa1sdb@amsat.org
To: rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org
Date: Sat=2C 2 Feb 2013 10:55:20 +0000
Subject: Re: LF= : 0.003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970=2C022 Hz

O.K. thanks for info =3BUwe.
You don't have to say sorry :-)
It learns us again that a stable signal is very= - very-=20 veryyyyy importand.
My 424 uHz grabber shows your signal and=20 drift =3Bclear with connected pixels
My =3B  =3B47 uHz grabber shows no conn= ected=20 line/trace anymore.
 =3B
Nice to see =3Bthat the Frequency Error cal= libration=20 works so well in Spectum Lab.
It seems that the Soundcard here is also rock s= table=20 with help of that SR cal function.
 =3B
73s Peter PA1SDB
 =3B
 =3B
 =3B
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday=2C February 02=2C 20= 13 10:10=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 0.003 Hz drift DJ8= WX at=20 8970=2C022 Hz

No=2C Peter=2C my control capture shows the=20 same.
Sri for that.
Seems the GPS ant got=20 wet.
I have to find=20 out.
GL Uwe/dj8wx

Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Gesendet:=20 02.02.2013 09:52
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff:=20 LF: 0.003 Hz drift DJ8WX at 8970=2C022 Hz

Hello Uwe=2C
I'm not sure=2C but it looks lik= e your=20 generator is not rock stable anymore since 19h45 UTC yesterday (1 Feb=20 13)
It did drift down =3Babout 0= .003=20 Hz. =3B (Ha ha.... 0.003 Hz)
Also possible that the trouble i= s here=20 ofcourse...
Now (09h48) drifting back up&nbs= p=3Bto=20 8970.022 Hz
 =3B
Best 73's Peter PA1SDB
 =3B
 =3B
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