Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 050B5380000E0; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U79OJ-0005zi-Va for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:55:11 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U79OJ-0005zZ-ET for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:55:11 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.129] helo=cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U79OH-0004z5-MF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:55:10 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: 2AEBE138073.A2F7A X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-1.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-1e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.33]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AEBE138073; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:54:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB3.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub3.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-1.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2244C4042; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:54:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::312b:f3bc:9c4:4ebb]) by ICTS-S-HUB3.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::a470:76b3:406d:2b1a%27]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:54:45 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" , Dale Hughes Thread-Topic: LF: VK1DSH reception in France WSPR 2 on 630m Thread-Index: AQHODQfq+Ek2lNVbXEGKGEXas4kgV5h9/rcAgABmjjo= Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 18:54:45 +0000 Message-ID: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB72339@ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be> References: <2282795.WEYH53gDWV@fbox.localdomain> <0739D17A209E4085947C84C3590A8B5F@F6CNIHP> <511FFC06.3090906@psk31.plus.com> ,<5120DE82.3010803@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <5120DE82.3010803@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.112.13.13] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 134.58.240.129 (rhcavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be) used invalid HELO/EHLO cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be - verification failed X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, in 1923 wrote Paul Godley (call 2ZE): The amateur is a fool: ignoring that something is impossible, he makes it happen. 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Maybe little has changed since then ;-) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T BTW i want to remember what was written here last tuesday: Am 12.02.2013 00:30, schrieb Graham: [...] no chance for any qrss/data , just a trace in the sand ? G.. Your results demonstrate once again that it is always worth to try what see= ms to be impossible! :-) Am 17.02.2013 13:08, schrieb Andr=E9 Guy=E9: What about the use of long period of TXing, as WSPR15 or QRSS ? For this ve= ry long path, I think that the opening duration time is too short for that = use ? Well first it would be interesting to get some informatiuons about Dale's T= X system. And if normal WSPR-2 decoded, then QRSS-10 should be possible as = well. WSPR-15 may take to long, the opening times are quite short, as you say. Bu= t anyway, this opens a new field for experiments. Of course it is worth to = transmit during the time that path is open! And it is good that the WSPR "d= ial" frequency in VK is different to ours, so we already have splitted band= s for RXing and TXing here in EU and VK. Now, as Dale said to me in a mail, one spot is not sufficient to valid that= . Why not? If you say that you didn't use a WEBSDR or other tricks, and got a= decode. Where should the information in the WSPR window come from, if not = trough the RF radiated in VK? Again, my best congratulations to this impressing result!! 73, Stefan7DK7FC --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB72339ICTSSMBX5lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Stefan,

 

in 1923 wrote Paul Godley (call= 2ZE): The amateur is a fool: ignoring&nbs= p;that something is impossible, he&nb= sp;makes it happen.

 

Maybe little= has changed since then ;-)

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

[...] 
no chance  for  any qrss/data   , just a trace in t= he  sand  ?
 
G..

Your results demonstrate once&nb= sp;again that it is always = worth to try what seems to = be impossible! :-)


Am 17.02.2013 13:08, schrieb Andr=E9 Guy=E9:
<= span lang=3D"EN-GB">What about the=  use of long period of TXing, as WSPR15 or QRSS ? For this very long path, I think that = the opening duration time is too short for<= /a> that use ?

Well first it would be interesting to get some informa= tiuons about Dale's TX system. A= nd if normal WSPR-2 decoded,&nbs= p;then QRSS-10 should be po= ssible as well. 
WSPR-15 may take to long, the opening t= imes are quite short, as you say.&nbs= p;But anyway, this opens a new field&= nbsp;for experiments. Of course it is=  worth to transmit during the time that = path is open! And it is good that the WSPR "dial" frequency in&nbs= p;VK is different to ours, so we already<= /a> have splitted bands for RXing and TXing here in EU and VK.

 

Now, as Dale said to me in a mail, one spot is not sufficient to valid that= .

Why not? If you say = that you didn't use a WEBSD= R or other tricks, and got a decode. Where should the informatio= n in the WSPR window come from, if not trough the RF=  radiated in VK?



Again, my best congratulations to this<= a> impressing result!!

73, Stefan7DK7FC
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