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It is certainly VERY encouraging for the other WSPR=20 transmitting stations to try what seems to be impossible. BTW i want to remember what was written here last tuesday: Am 12.02.2013 00:30, schrieb Graham: > [...] > no chance for any qrss/data , just a trace in the sand ? > G.. Your results demonstrate once again that it is always worth to try what=20 seems to be impossible! :-) Am 17.02.2013 13:08, schrieb Andr=C3=A9 Guy=C3=A9: > What about the use of long period of TXing, as WSPR15 or QRSS ? For=20 > this very long path, I think that the opening duration time is too=20 > short for that use ? Well first it would be interesting to get some informatiuons about=20 Dale's TX system. And if normal WSPR-2 decoded, then QRSS-10 should be=20 possible as well. WSPR-15 may take to long, the opening times are quite short, as you say.=20 But anyway, this opens a new field for experiments. Of course it is=20 worth to transmit during the time that path is open! And it is good that=20 the WSPR "dial" frequency in VK is different to ours, so we already have=20 splitted bands for RXing and TXing here in EU and VK. > *Now, as Dale said to me in a mail, one spot is not sufficient to=20 > valid that.* > Why not? If you say that you didn't use a WEBSDR or other tricks, and=20 got a decode. Where should the information in the WSPR window come from,=20 if not trough the RF radiated in VK? Again, my best congratulations to this impressing result!! 73, Stefan7DK7FC --------------070409040001030306070806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id r1HDhZAg025769 Andy, Dale, MF,

First i want to express my congratulations to this most impressing achievement! It is certainly VERY encouraging for the other WSPR transmitting stations to try what seems to be impossible.

BTW i want to remember what was written here last tuesday:
Am 12.02.2013 00:30, schrieb Graham:
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no chance=C2=A0 for=C2=A0 any qrss/data=C2=A0=C2=A0 , just a trace= in the=C2=A0 sand=C2=A0 ?
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G..

Your results demonstrate once again that it is always worth to try what seems to be impossible! :-)


Am 17.02.2013 13:08, schrieb Andr=C3=A9 Guy=C3=A9:
What abo= ut the use of long period of TXing, as WSPR15 or QRSS ? For this very long path, I think that the opening duration time is too short for that use ?<= /font>

Well first it would be interesting to get some informatiuons about Dale's TX system. And if normal WSPR-2 decoded, then QRSS-10 should be possible as well.
WSPR-15 may take to long, the opening times are quite short, as you say. But anyway, this opens a new field for experiments. Of course it is worth to transmit during the time that path is open! And it is good that the WSPR "dial" frequency in VK is different to ours, so we already have splitted bands for RXing and TXing here in EU and VK.

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Now, as Dale said to me in a mail, one spot is not sufficient to valid that.

Why not? If you say that you didn't use a WEBSDR or other tricks, and got a decode. Where should the information in the WSPR window come from, if not trough the RF radiated in VK?



Again, my best congratulations to this impressing result!!

73, Stefan7DK7FC
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