Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 436E838000115; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:11:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U3vCp-00027b-5D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:09:59 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U3vCo-00027S-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:09:58 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U3vCl-0005u2-6B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:09:57 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0BALBoFVFOlm9B/2dsb2JhbAANOIJJgS+IMLR5gxIBAQEBAgFJNQcECwkIBAEBAQkWCAcJAwIBAgE0CQgTBgIBAYd7AwkNBawGiUUaiUmRXAOWJItDiBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,632,1355097600"; d="scan'208,217";a="399422017" Received: from host-78-150-111-65.as13285.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([78.150.111.65]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2013 21:09:33 +0000 Message-ID: <5115698A.7040209@psk31.plus.com> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 21:09:30 +0000 From: g3zjo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <65ac6742ba444ba9bae511a98a7287f3@kabelmail.de> In-Reply-To: <65ac6742ba444ba9bae511a98a7287f3@kabelmail.de> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130208-0, 08/02/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Uwe / LF I am not leaving my Grabber http://www.g3zjo.talktalk.net/vlfgrabber.htm on 24/7 these days. I am following your test during my waking hours.:-) Due to this I am just using the DFCW6000 424uHz set up. Today produced a very nice line, one of the best days. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: ce3df9f2acd7587159138e0455ceb9aa Subject: Re: LF: Re: 8970.022 Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000907040001030207010800" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d405a511569e50343 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000907040001030207010800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Uwe / LF I am not leaving my Grabber http://www.g3zjo.talktalk.net/vlfgrabber.htm on 24/7 these days. I am following your test during my waking hours.:-) Due to this I am just using the DFCW6000 424uHz set up. Today produced a very nice line, one of the best days. When the RX is off the Grabber displays the last RX period. Thanks for the signal. 73 Eddie G3ZJO On 08/02/2013 14:17, uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de wrote: > > *Hello Peter and Markus,* > > ** > > *I like playing around with the Todmorden grabber site. * > > *when I first saw all the gaps in the trace at 8970.0225Hz I was > somewhat horrified; > did the TX switch off and on that often? > no, it was permanent on the air as shown by Peters and Lubos grabbers.* > > *changing the rcv direction of the Todmorden aerial I found the gaps > filled. > p.e., when switching from the should be 80dgr to 70dgr the gap at abt > 1700UTCthe 7^th of this month filled, > but others came up of course.* > > *seems the reflecting clouds are found off the line btwn RX and TX stn > too sometimes. > the distance btwn my location and Todmorden is 765km. * > > ** > > *GL* > > *Uwe/dj8wx * > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Gesendet: 07.02.2013 22:15 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: Re: LF: Re: 8970.022 Hz > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Peter, > > Around 12 h UTC the signal is the weakest in my oppinion. > This depends on distance, frequency and the diurnal variation > of ionospheric height (the ceiling of the waveguide), resulting in > constructive or destructive superposition of groundwave and one-hop > skywave. 9 kHz propagation between Stefan and myself (also about 180 > km) exhibited the same minimum at noon. On the other hand, 400 km to > OK or OE were usually best around midday. > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* PA1SDB, Peter > *Sent:* Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:37 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Re: 8970.022 Hz > > Hello Uwe, VLF > I did try to find the signal maximums since ~3 Feb. > Here they are... > 06h17 15h40 > ????? 16h20 > 0730 17h38 > ????? 16h00 > The ???? are because there was interference or sort of. > Looks like there are some maximums around sunrise and sunset. > Around 12 h UTC the signal is the weakest in my oppinion. > Best 73's Peter - PA1SDB > www.qsl.net/pa1sdb > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:18 PM > *Subject:* LF: 8970.022 Hz > > *Hi dreamers,* > > ** > > ***the TX was off from abt 1230UTC until 1440UTC today because > ****1)my XYL was working in the greenhouses (metal framed) and** > 2)I took the advantage repairing the aerial (one of the anchorage > ropes didn’t stand the sparks).* > > ** > > ***GL* > > ** > > *Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv* > --------------000907040001030207010800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Uwe / LF

I am not leaving my Grabber http://www.g3zjo.talktalk.net/vlfgrabber.htm on 24/7 these days. I am following your test during my waking hours. :-)
Due to this I am just using the DFCW6000 424uHz set up. Today produced a very nice line, one of the best days.

When the RX is off the Grabber displays the last RX period.

Thanks for the signal.

73 Eddie G3ZJO

On 08/02/2013 14:17, uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de wrote:

Hello Peter and Markus,

I like playing around with the Todmorden grabber site.

when I first saw all the gaps in  the trace at 8970.0225Hz I was somewhat  horrified;
did the TX switch off and on that often?
no, it was permanent on the air as shown by Peters and Lubos grabbers.

changing the rcv direction of the Todmorden aerial I found the gaps filled.
p.e., when switching from the should be 80dgr to 70dgr the gap at abt 1700UTC the 7th of this month filled,
but others came up of course.

seems the reflecting clouds are found off the line btwn RX and TX stn too sometimes.
the distance btwn my location and Todmorden is 765km.

GL

Uwe/dj8wx


Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Gesendet: 07.02.2013 22:15
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Betreff: Re: LF: Re: 8970.022 Hz

Peter,
 
> Around 12 h UTC the signal is the weakest in my oppinion.
 
This depends on distance, frequency and the diurnal variation of ionospheric height (the ceiling of the waveguide), resulting in constructive or destructive superposition of groundwave and one-hop skywave.  9 kHz propagation between Stefan and myself (also about 180 km) exhibited the same minimum at noon. On the other hand, 400 km to OK or OE were usually best around midday.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
 

Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:37 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 8970.022 Hz

Hello Uwe, VLF
I did try to find the signal maximums since ~3 Feb.
Here they are...
 
06h17  15h40
?????   16h20
0730    17h38
?????   16h00
 
The ???? are because there was interference or sort of.
Looks like there are some maximums around sunrise and sunset.
 
Around 12 h UTC the signal is the weakest in my oppinion.
 
Best 73's Peter - PA1SDB
 
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:18 PM
Subject: LF: 8970.022 Hz

Hi dreamers,

 the TX was off from abt 1230UTC until 1440UTC today because
1)      my XYL was working in the greenhouses (metal framed) and
2)      I took the advantage repairing the aerial (one of the anchorage ropes didn’t stand the sparks).

GL

Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv

 


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