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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Victor, MF, There was something wrong again last night. The last decodes were from 0:30 UTC. I reduced the drift significantly by using the fan. It should be no problem for WSPR-15 that way. I also think the timing is not the problem. So maybe the 5V reference voltage isn't stable. I will go on to check this. 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The last decodes were from=20 0:30 UTC. I reduced the drift significantly by using the fan. It should=20 be no problem for WSPR-15 that way. I also think the timing is not the=20 problem. So maybe the 5V reference voltage isn't stable. I will go on to=20 check this. 73, GL es looking forward to your photos. Stefan Am 05.02.2013 08:40, schrieb Victor van Kooten: > Hello Stefan, > > I don't know how sensitive wspr15 is for drift,maybe this is a cause > for lost decodes.Maybe you can change the xtal osc for a tcxo or a > ocxo,they are very cheap these days,ofcourse it depends on the freq. yo= u > use. > Your construction isn't that ugly,This evening I will send you some > pictures of my own experiments, > > > 73,GL > > Victor > > =20 >>>> Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer 04/02/20= 13 >>>> =20 > 23:26>>> > Hi Victor, > > Thanks for the feedback. Yes i see i'm drifting. Not so fine. There > were > some missing decodes. Must have been due to the timing or maybe the > drift? > > My TX converter is quite an ugly construction. It was grown from a very > > temporary arrangement of a few electronic parts. The drift may come > from > some nearby parts (The ICL7667 and a 78S05) which become warm during > TXing and feed the heat to the xtal. I will investigate... > > 73, Stefan > > Am 04.02.2013 22:04, schrieb victor13@online.nl: > =20 >> Hi Stefan, >> your signal on the waterfall >> Victor >> >> =20 > =20