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I turn my computer and internet off at night it doesn't change my signal one bit. Then when I wish, in 0.016 of a second I can get a complete set of Data for propagation analysis at different power levels. Eddie On 02/02/2013 16:27, mal hamilton wrote: > Stefan > Life is full of surprises. I thought I would have a day out with the > Data Appliance Operators !!!!!!!!!!!!!! > + 3 ur signal but I can work you at this time of day on CW and others > around Europe, no advange there with WSPR. > I have a suitable TX for data but need to build a suitable interface > between it and my amplifier. > I also have a mixer board Decca 5540/dd new for a GPS rx and a hi stab > 10 Mcs block osc, this coupled to a 10Mcs transceiver would make an > ideal TX transverter suitable for all Data modes. > So far on CW and QRSS and Opera I can work near and far DX so there is > no rush for me to get into Appliance Operator mode > at present. > I also prefer Attended operation that is where the excitement comes in > and not go to bed and keep legs crossed all night hoping for Miracle > decodes that might never happen and Pray that the Internet never > fails, for some this could cause premature expiry into the next > world!!!!!! > g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Stefan Schäfer > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Saturday, February 02, 2013 3:55 PM > *Subject:* Re: LF: wspr decode > > Hoooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaayyyyy Mal !! > > You got a decode of my signal. Isn't that amazing! Even i daytime! > :-) Thank you. > > Best report so far is +3 dB. > > Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az > 2013-02-02 15:48 DK7FC 0.475682 +3 -1 JN49ik 1 > G3KEV IO94sh 829 314 > > > G3KEV explores the digimode world. That is a historical moment :-) > > Now you just need a mixer to transmit all the FSK stuff :-) It is > very simple and makes fun! You can run the TX while sleeping. Do > CW all the day but run TA WSPR while sleeping. > > You can define that as another interpretation of "antenna > efficiency", i.e. the time (or duty cycle t/24h) where RF power is > actually radiated from the antenna :-) > > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > > Am 02.02.2013 14:49, schrieb mal hamilton: >> Ps >> things are improving now decoding DK7FC and M1GEO watch out you >> could be next. Seems a temperamental mode >> g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* mal hamilton >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 02, 2013 1:32 PM >> *Subject:* Re: LF: wspr decode >> >> Eddie >> My Logic---If I can decode one then that should apply to all >> the others >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* g3zjo >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 02, 2013 11:42 AM >> *Subject:* Re: LF: wspr decode >> >> Simple one, but timing, is your timing OK? >> >> Eddie >> >> On 02/02/2013 11:32, mal hamilton wrote: >>> I am seeing quite a lot of acty on the waterfall and you >>> are probably there, 8 visible at present but Decode is a >>> different story. >>> Like I said if these same stns were on QRSS I would get >>> an ID and you would probably be there also >>> Most are audible with me and strong enough for a CW qso >>> de g3kev >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* g3zjo >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:55 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: LF: wspr decode >>> >>> On 02/02/2013 10:40, mal hamilton wrote: >>>> Strangely enough I can only decode GW8MLA and there >>>> are another several stns active at present on >>>> WSPR-2. Most are strong and audible >>>> de g3kev >>> Well that will give you a rather distorted view of >>> the usefulness of the mode then. >>> >>> And you don't see me, >>> >>> Beatles >>> >>> You think you've got everything you want >>> And your bird can sing >>> But you don't see me >>> >>> Do I remember the lyrics right? >>> >>> Eddie >>> >> --------------030109060203040909090701 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal

A little data experience but still misunderstanding.

I turn my computer and internet off at night it doesn't change my signal one bit. Then when I wish, in 0.016 of a second I can get a complete set of Data for propagation analysis at different power levels.

Eddie

On 02/02/2013 16:27, mal hamilton wrote:
Stefan
Life is full of surprises. I thought I would have a day out with the Data Appliance Operators !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+ 3 ur signal but I can work you at this time of day on CW and others around Europe, no advange there with WSPR.
I have a suitable TX for data but need to build a suitable interface between it and my amplifier.
I also have a mixer board Decca 5540/dd new for a GPS rx and a hi stab 10 Mcs block osc, this coupled to a 10Mcs transceiver would make an ideal TX transverter suitable for all Data modes.
So far on CW and QRSS and Opera I can work near and far DX so there is no rush for me to get into Appliance Operator mode
at present.
I also prefer Attended operation that is where the excitement comes in and not go to bed and keep legs crossed all night hoping for Miracle decodes that might never happen and Pray that the Internet never fails, for some this could cause premature expiry into the next world!!!!!!
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode

Hoooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaayyyyy Mal !!

You got a decode of my signal. Isn't that amazing! Even i daytime! :-) Thank you.

Best report so far is +3 dB.

Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
 2013-02-02 15:48   DK7FC   0.475682   +3   -1   JN49ik   1   G3KEV   IO94sh   829   314 

G3KEV explores the digimode world. That is a historical moment :-)

Now you just need a mixer to transmit all the FSK stuff :-) It is very simple and makes fun! You can run the TX while sleeping. Do CW all the day but run TA WSPR while sleeping.

You can define that as another interpretation of "antenna efficiency", i.e. the time (or duty cycle t/24h) where RF power is actually radiated from the antenna :-)


73, Stefan/DK7FC



Am 02.02.2013 14:49, schrieb mal hamilton:
Ps
things are improving now decoding DK7FC and M1GEO watch out you could be next. Seems a temperamental mode
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode

Eddie
My Logic---If I can decode one then that should apply to all the others
 
----- Original Message -----
From: g3zjo
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode

Simple one, but timing, is your timing OK?

Eddie

On 02/02/2013 11:32, mal hamilton wrote:
I am seeing quite a lot of acty on the waterfall and you are probably there, 8 visible at present but Decode is a different story.
Like I said if these same stns were on QRSS I would get an ID and you would probably be there also
Most are audible with me and strong enough for a CW qso
de g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From: g3zjo
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: LF: wspr decode

On 02/02/2013 10:40, mal hamilton wrote:
Strangely enough I can only decode GW8MLA and there are another several stns active at present on WSPR-2. Most are strong and audible
de g3kev
 
Well that will give you a rather distorted view of the usefulness of the mode then.

And you don't see me,

Beatles

You think you've got everything you want
And your bird can sing
But you don't see me

Do I remember the lyrics right?

Eddie


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