Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mi04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DA2B5380000BD; Wed, 6 Feb 2013 15:41:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U3BRY-0006x8-He for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:18:08 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U3BRY-0006wz-54 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:18:08 +0000 Received: from smtpout2.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.42] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U3BRV-0005Qk-Ql for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 20:18:07 +0000 Received: from AGB ([2.26.17.117]) by mwinf5d28 with ME id x8Hk1k00T2XYqqi038Hk3n; Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:17:45 +0100 Message-ID: <4B1D7248C4FF4ED8AA1A914BD065DC26@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <72D88C6C0DAA4B379CBBCA695EF47BF0@White> <9C06F775D1344822B5D30EBBAB8AA144@AGB> <51128C6E.1040505@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <001d01ce048f$3ced6b70$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <001d01ce048f$3ced6b70$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 20:17:44 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Don't know about Helium balloons Mal Nitrous Oxide may be ? From: "mal hamilton" Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:27 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: declared power on WSPR [...] Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE X-Scan-Signature: a6b6ffaf48fdddf1ed5c25dc4bf03ee1 Subject: Re: LF: declared power on WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b8c5112c0005b30 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Don't know about Helium balloons Mal Nitrous Oxide may be ? -------------------------------------------------- From: "mal hamilton" Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:27 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: declared power on WSPR > Stefan > Are you saying it is all guesswork ??? 10 dB either way !! > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stefan Schäfer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 5:01 PM > Subject: Re: LF: declared power on WSPR > > >> Hi Dimitris, >> >> Am 06.02.2013 00:18, schrieb Dimitrios Tsifakis: >> > [...] >> > >> > A reason for the discrepancy between different "1 W" values may be >> > that the majority of amateurs would calculate rather than measure the >> > radiated power. And as we all know, the majority of back-yard antennas >> > are not quite lab reference antennas. If anything, I would guess that >> > calculated radiated power is overestimated compared to reality. >> > >> > 73, Dimitris >> > >> >> Yes, that's the reason :-) >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> > >