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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Peter, > Around 12 h UTC the signal is the weakest in my oppinion. This depends on distance, frequency and the diurnal variation of ionospheric height (the ceiling of the waveguide), resulting in constructive or destructive superposition of groundwave and one-hop skywave. 9 kHz propagation between Stefan and myself (also about 180 km) exhibited the same minimum at noon. On the other hand, 400 km to OK or OE were usually best around midday. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [64.12.100.31 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 4a8faa6952847c1ec651f883b63fc053 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 8970.022 Hz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01CE0580.AFB572A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601551141ec419a3 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CE0580.AFB572A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter, > Around 12 h UTC the signal is the weakest in my oppinion. This depends on distance, frequency and the diurnal variation of = ionospheric height (the ceiling of the waveguide), resulting in = constructive or destructive superposition of groundwave and one-hop = skywave. 9 kHz propagation between Stefan and myself (also about 180 = km) exhibited the same minimum at noon. On the other hand, 400 km to OK = or OE were usually best around midday. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: PA1SDB, Peter=20 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:37 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: 8970.022 Hz Hello Uwe, VLF I did try to find the signal maximums since ~3 Feb. Here they are... 06h17 15h40 ????? 16h20 0730 17h38 ????? 16h00 The ???? are because there was interference or sort of. Looks like there are some maximums around sunrise and sunset. Around 12 h UTC the signal is the weakest in my oppinion. Best 73's Peter - PA1SDB www.qsl.net/pa1sdb ----- Original Message -----=20 From: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 3:18 PM Subject: LF: 8970.022 Hz Hi dreamers, the TX was off from abt 1230UTC until 1440UTC today because 1) my XYL was working in the greenhouses (metal framed) and 2) I took the advantage repairing the aerial (one of the = anchorage ropes didn=92t stand the sparks).=20 GL=20 Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01CE0580.AFB572A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Peter,
 
> Around 12 h UTC the signal is the weakest in my = oppinion.
 
This depends on distance, frequency and the=20 diurnal variation of ionospheric height (the ceiling of the=20 waveguide), resulting in constructive or destructive superposition of = groundwave=20 and one-hop skywave.  9 kHz propagation between Stefan and = myself=20 (also about 180 km) exhibited the same minimum at = noon. On the=20 other hand, 400 km to OK or OE were usually best=20 around midday.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
 

Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 9:37 PM
Subject: LF: Re: 8970.022 Hz

Hello Uwe, VLF
I did try to find the signal maximums since ~3 = Feb.
Here they are...
 
06h17  15h40
?????   16h20
0730    17h38
?????   16h00
 
The ???? are because there was interference or = sort=20 of.
Looks like there are some maximums around = sunrise and=20 sunset.
 
Around 12 h UTC the signal is the weakest in = my=20 oppinion.
 
Best 73's Peter - PA1SDB
 
www.qsl.net/pa1sdb
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de =
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, = 2013 3:18=20 PM
Subject: LF: 8970.022 Hz

Hi dreamers,

 the TX was off = from abt=20 1230UTC until 1440UTC today=20 because
1)     =20 my XYL was working in the greenhouses (metal = framed)=20 and
2)     =20 I took the advantage repairing the aerial (one of = the=20 anchorage ropes didn=92t stand the sparks).=20

GL=20

Uwe/dj8wx/jo43sv

 

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