Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A1640380000A2; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:23:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1U3u4f-0001qJ-GO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 19:57:29 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1U3u4e-0001qA-Qj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 19:57:28 +0000 Received: from nm1-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.223]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1U3u4c-0005eA-Pj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 19:57:27 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.197] by nm1.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 19:57:05 -0000 Received: from [217.146.189.76] by tm3.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 19:57:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 19:57:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1360353425; bh=OBPy9Ho7zpYsb+eU0WZiG/nGPSZSr62VbXAvuV+y1XQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=3K9h74xlWdvruulvQo44nPjDfzpbzrvEW13ThGpCy1eDPNS3JWjnciDea1s+hlcJWVIk5yp+ld4iw/smo4vFbC5wjBPj6nU/IfO2+5womnV6PTk73spZqqwkxPN0LG9XS1ckzbXhvrhqbBaLvHKmE8SxPhDucqpUWcvbPiMf6pY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 750237.32072.bm@smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: enXo3GwVM1lcKX36.ebmOjIof.8LGMVpmSafrFSUKmZwuu2 XTmKdVfQly871sdnix5M8pSmBU2LUOTl.G38VU9DuXQSLdjfbK7IK_uT5010 WJVkp1hqV1dkZCsN_nlsUh9SQf7S91Egi33FqNQRaBuQqNWUIwK9oQAjDsO8 7DJBXvrzb_6Y4EyRQPkh7z9e2nnry3874AtutguewJv1s5kNn27BhzrQUdlE _qcc1WZZMMWK0bL7XTXj1mEbF6N1bOHYK.DPzniYJPawdC6Lc5q1tJamD86r 85_Hddeuc05Bs0PYh0j_CnJLifHy5J6.tuPZOKvm_rLw0qHmbWXNffxaBL3E tRGHoTrAtOG5Wx04g.cvscClpKj8mDvxIf.Ap4.95GYiXcloVS0Ad0s.XqBY 6j2dAp0OBQ1LY0hW1xwG5GphDkOyvetthW.rR1rh5uGx7UF_JSmnIq_A_Yfj cQkwZZExJlbHX.7AM X-Yahoo-SMTP: .u8e2g.swBByWKjbpA3lR6Fw.2ZEQrJJpVsTSrpXLCffsPaCEMY- Received: from IBM7FFA209F07C (c.ashby435@86.155.201.95 with login) by smtp826.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Feb 2013 11:57:05 -0800 PST Message-ID: <25ABBD1601E44E7F9331F06E2022921D@IBM7FFA209F07C> From: "Chris" To: References: <33a081ba8fa54d99adcf8022fbb0c07b@kabelmail.de> <981c2fdebe29e7ff448a2bfb7bf53238@sensemail.ch> <1360312446.81440.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <51151485.8000602@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 19:57:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Personally I don't think it's all bad in a limited sort of way. I would welcome an agreement on (1) a section for individual beacons, and (2) a defined section for QRSS. At the moment I haven't a clue where exactly to monitor. The idea of moving QRSS away from the centre of the band (but even nearer the bottom) is preferable. I am sure other mode enthusiasts would find it more desirable/helpful to know where to listen. Not so sure about the CW calling frequency so high though. I am surprised CW activity hasn't taken off to a larger extent though, I regularly hear strong stations calling CQ over and over, getting no replies. Not very encouraging. Chris, G4AYT. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [217.146.182.223 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Scan-Signature: b2000330e4064ca60a9f57e731b892da Subject: LF: NRRL proposal for a 630m Band Plan Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01CE0636.79ACA000" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601751155eb249ef X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01CE0636.79ACA000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Personally I don't think it's all bad in a limited sort of way. I would = welcome an agreement on (1) a section for individual beacons, and (2) a = defined section for QRSS. At the moment I haven't a clue where exactly = to monitor. The idea of moving QRSS away from the centre of the band = (but even nearer the bottom) is preferable. I am sure other mode = enthusiasts would find it more desirable/helpful to know where to = listen. Not so sure about the CW calling frequency so high though. I am surprised CW activity hasn't taken off to a larger extent though, I = regularly hear strong stations calling CQ over and over, getting no = replies. Not very encouraging. Chris, G4AYT. From: "traumwandler@sensemail.ch" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 8:24 Subject: LF: NRRL proposal for a 630m Band Plan Are you aware of this proposal? What do you think about it? 73 de Toni, HB9ASB Recommendation From the viewpoints of NRRL we would (at the time being) like to = present the following proposal for a 630 m IARU Region 1 bandplan: 472 - 479 kHz (630 m) 472 - 475 kHz CW only =E2=80=93 maximum bandwidth 200 Hz 472.000 - 472.150 CW Beacons only (IARU coordinated) 472.150 - 472.300 CW QRSS 472.600 CW DX Calling 474.750 CW Calling 475 - 479 kHz CW + digimodes =E2=80=93 maximum bandwidth 500 Hz Contests should be discouraged in this very narrow 630 m band = where radio amateurs are secondary users. Comment: NRRL feels that it will be premature to further subdivide = different digimodes. This may be better to do at the next conference, if necessary, after = considering experiences. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01CE0636.79ACA000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Personally I don't think it's all bad = in a limited=20 sort of way. I would welcome an agreement on (1) a section for = individual=20 beacons, and (2) a defined section for QRSS. At the moment I haven't a = clue=20 where exactly to monitor. The idea of moving QRSS away from the centre = of the=20 band (but even nearer the bottom) is preferable. I am sure other mode=20 enthusiasts would find it more desirable/helpful to know where to = listen. Not so=20 sure about the CW calling frequency so high though.
I am surprised CW activity hasn't taken = off to a=20 larger extent though, I regularly hear strong stations calling CQ over = and over,=20 getting no replies. Not very encouraging.
Chris, G4AYT.
From: "traumwandler@sensemail.ch"=20 "><traumwandler@sensemail.ch&= gt;
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Friday, = 8 February=20 2013, 8:24
Subject: LF:=20 NRRL proposal for a 630m Band Plan

Are you = aware of=20 this proposal?
What do you think about it?
73 de Toni,=20 HB9ASB


Recommendation
From the viewpoints of NRRL we = would=20 (at the time being) like to present the
following proposal for = a 630 m=20 IARU Region 1 bandplan:
472 - 479 kHz (630 m)
472 - 475 = kHz  CW=20 only =E2=80=93 maximum bandwidth 200 Hz
    472.000 - = 472.150 =20 CW Beacons only (IARU coordinated)
    472.150 -=20 472.300  CW QRSS
    472.600      =  =20             CW DX Calling
  =  =20 474.750                =  =20   CW Calling
475 - 479 kHz  CW + digimodes =E2=80=93 = maximum=20 bandwidth 500 Hz
Contests should be discouraged in this very = narrow 630=20 m band where radio
amateurs are secondary = users.
Comment:
NRRL=20 feels that it will be premature to further subdivide different = digimodes.=20 This
may be better to do at the next conference, if necessary, = after=20 = considering
experiences.








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