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Content preview: Hi Minto, I recently tried the same device for a local WSPR 15 test and had the same concern about DDS step size, but it decoded ok immediately. 73, Markus (DF6NM) [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [64.12.207.163 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 81978068c3ed22c636bd574cc661f8bd Subject: Re: LF: Re: WSPR MF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01CE04BC.8FB30540" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mi02.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b8a5112d7db7ea9 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CE04BC.8FB30540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Minto, I recently tried the same device for a local WSPR 15 test and had the = same concern about DDS step size, but it decoded ok immediately. 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Minto Witteveen=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:58 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: WSPR MF I am currently TX-ing WSPR-15 @ 472800.. Just finished WSPR-15 programming in my PIC controlled AD9850 + 100W TX 'Normal' WSPR works fine (got lots of spots today) but with a tone=20 separation of only 0.1831 Hz for WSPR-15 the error in FSK tone = separation is=20 nearly 5%: Minimum stepsize of the AD9850 =3D 125.000.000 / (2^32) =3D 0.0291 Hz. 6 = *=20 0.0291 =3D 0.1746 Hz in stead of 0.1831 =3D -4.6% too low We'll see. Minto pa3bca -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Ceterum censeo Carthaginem delendam esse -----Original Message-----=20 From: Roman RW3ADB Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 21:17 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: WSPR MF Who is planning to TX today? Roman RW3ADB. > Wed Feb 06 2013 21:38:39 GMT+0400 (Local Standard Time) = =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C = Andy=20 > (uw8sm@rambler.ru) =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB: > > WSPR-15 > 2300 -34 -1.3 0.475805 0 M0BMU IO91 37 > 0000 -28 -0.6 0.475811 0 M0BMU IO91 37 > 0030 -34 0.1 0.475811 0 M0BMU IO91 37 > 0030 -18 -4.3 0.475821 0 DK7FC JN49 30 > WSPR-2 > 130205 2036 7 -25 -0.2 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 8 0 > 130205 2208 8 -23 -0.6 0.475785 PA0A JO33 33=20 > 0 1 0 > 130205 2254 9 -22 -0.5 0.475695 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 2 0 > 130205 2306 12 -20 -0.6 0.475695 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 1 0 > 130205 2318 14 -17 -0.5 0.475695 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 1 0 > 130205 2324 9 -22 -1.1 0.475695 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 1 0 > 130205 2330 7 -23 -0.5 0.475695 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 55 0 > 130205 2342 16 -15 -0.7 0.475695 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 1 0 > 130205 2348 9 -20 -0.2 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 1 9 0 > 130206 0012 11 -19 -0.4 0.475695 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 22 0 > 130206 0024 7 -25 -0.3 0.475695 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 8 0 > 130206 0036 10 -19 -0.3 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 1 0 > 130206 0042 10 -19 -0.6 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 1 0 > 130206 0048 6 -23 -0.2 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 2 0 > 130206 0100 7 -23 -0.3 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 1 0 > 130206 0106 7 -22 -0.2 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 31 0 > 130206 0112 5 -24 -0.3 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 9 0 > 130206 0118 6 -24 -0.2 0.475695 DK7FC JN49=20 > -1 3769 0 > 130206 0212 5 -23 -0.4 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 1 7912 -12 > 130206 0218 8 -22 -0.3 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 4 0 > 130206 0230 9 -21 -0.5 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 3 0 > 130206 0248 10 -20 -0.3 0.475696 DK7FC JN49 30=20 > 0 1 0 > > > > --=20 > =D0=9D=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BD=D0=BE =D0=B2 = =D0=BF=D0=BE=D1=87=D1=82=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=BE=D0=BC = =D0=BA=D0=BB=D0=B8=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D0=B5 = =D0=B1=D1=80=D0=B0=D1=83=D0=B7=D0=B5=D1=80=D0=B0 Opera: = http://www.opera.com/mail/ > >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01CE04BC.8FB30540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Minto,
 
I recently tried the same = device for a local=20 WSPR 15 test and had the same concern about DDS step size, but = it decoded=20 ok immediately.
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)

Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 9:58 PM
Subject: LF: Re: WSPR MF

I am currently TX-ing WSPR-15 @ 472800..
Just finished = WSPR-15=20 programming in my PIC controlled AD9850 + 100W TX
'Normal' WSPR works = fine=20 (got lots of spots today) but with a tone
separation of only 0.1831 = Hz for=20 WSPR-15 the error in FSK tone separation is
nearly  = 5%:
Minimum=20 stepsize of the AD9850 =3D 125.000.000 / (2^32) =3D 0.0291 Hz. 6 * =
0.0291 =3D=20 0.1746 Hz in stead of 0.1831 =3D -4.6% too low

We'll = see.

Minto=20 pa3bca




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-----Original Message-----
From: = Roman=20 RW3ADB
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 21:17
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Subject:=20 RE: LF: WSPR MF


Who is planning to TX = today?



Roman=20 RW3ADB.

> Wed Feb 06 2013 21:38:39 GMT+0400 (Local Standard = Time)=20 =D0=BF=D0=BE=D0=BB=D1=8C=D0=B7=D0=BE=D0=B2=D0=B0=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D1=8C = Andy
> (uw8sm@rambler.ru) = =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=BB:
>
>=20 WSPR-15
> 2300 -34 -1.3     =20 0.475805    0    M0BMU IO91 37
> = 0000 -28=20 -0.6      0.475811   =20 0    M0BMU IO91 37
> 0030 -34   =20 0.1      0.475811    = 0   =20 M0BMU IO91 37
> 0030 -18 -4.3     =20 0.475821    0    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 WSPR-2
> 130205 2036      7 -25=20 -0.2      0.475696    DK7FC JN49 = 30=20
> 0         =20 8        0
> 130205=20 2208      8 -23 = -0.6     =20 0.475785    PA0A JO33 33
>=20 0         =20 1        0
> 130205=20 2254      9 -22 = -0.5     =20 0.475695    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 2        0
> 130205=20 2306    12 -20 -0.6     =20 0.475695    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 1        0
> 130205=20 2318    14 -17 -0.5     =20 0.475695    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 1        0
> 130205=20 2324      9 -22 = -1.1     =20 0.475695    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 1        0
> 130205=20 2330      7 -23 = -0.5     =20 0.475695    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0       =20 55        0
> 130205=20 2342    16 -15 -0.7     =20 0.475695    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 1        0
> 130205=20 2348      9 -20 = -0.2     =20 0.475696    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 1         =20 9        0
> 130206=20 0012    11 -19 -0.4     =20 0.475695    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0       =20 22        0
> 130206=20 0024      7 -25 = -0.3     =20 0.475695    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 8        0
> 130206=20 0036    10 -19 -0.3     =20 0.475696    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 1        0
> 130206=20 0042    10 -19 -0.6     =20 0.475696    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 1        0
> 130206=20 0048      6 -23 = -0.2     =20 0.475696    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 2        0
> 130206=20 0100      7 -23 = -0.3     =20 0.475696    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 1        0
> 130206=20 0106      7 -22 = -0.2     =20 0.475696    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0       =20 31        0
> 130206=20 0112      5 -24 = -0.3     =20 0.475696    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 9        0
> 130206=20 0118      6 -24 = -0.2     =20 0.475695    DK7FC JN49
>   =20 -1    3769        = 0
>=20 130206 0212      5 -23=20 -0.4      0.475696    DK7FC JN49 = 30=20
> 1    7912    -12
> 130206=20 0218      8 -22 = -0.3     =20 0.475696    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 4        0
> 130206=20 0230      9 -21 = -0.5     =20 0.475696    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 3        0
> 130206=20 0248    10 -20 -0.3     =20 0.475696    DK7FC JN49 30
>=20 0         =20 1        0
> = >
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