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Content preview: Andy It is a pity I did not monitor MF last nite with my antenna I should have seen some trace of the VK1 signal mal/g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: André Guyé To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:08 PM Subject: LF: VK1DSH reception in France WSPR 2 on 630m [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: 452ad4fd2b3dd60773c9dacb43a7e2eb Subject: LF: Re: VK1DSH reception in France WSPR 2 on 630m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008B_01CE0D40.BDE51CA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408251212e090339 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01CE0D40.BDE51CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andy It is a pity I did not monitor MF last nite with my antenna I should = have seen some trace of the VK1 signal mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andr=C3=A9 Guy=C3=A9=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 12:08 PM Subject: LF: VK1DSH reception in France WSPR 2 on 630m From F6CNI : Hello, I give you some info about the MF reception of Dale VK1DSH = signal here in France. For 2 weeks, the propagation between EU / VK on 160 meters is great, = and I had some CW QSO barefoot. I think that for this DX path the = propagation on MF may be similar than on 160 m ? At the date of this event, between the Dale and Andy QTH, the best = moment is a bit before the grey line sunset in France, when the sun = elevation is about 3=C2=B0. But on 160 meters that needs especially good = propagation and the opening is rare and very short, 5 to 15 minutes = only. This moment is now around 1645 TU in my QTH. A bit later, when the = sunrise at VK land in grey line, that is a second short period for = success, around 1920 TU. That is true only for south to north hemisphere = DX. For north / north path (EU to east coast or centre of States) the best = moment is simply in the middle of the night. But perhaps for longer = path, as west coast the sunrise in Europe is better ? My garden is quite large but in centre of the city, a noisy location. = Antennas for LF / MF are an 85 meters long Inverted L and a K9AY. RX are = IC7200, IC706MK2 and a FT1000MP. Only 3 miles away from my home, there is a golf. That is my second = hobby. Due to the very bad weather in France for one month, there is a = very little player=E2=80=99s activity. So a week ago I hang on border of = the golf a simple beverage using a very light wire. About 500 or a bit = more meters long aiming to 80=C2=B0 azimuth. For the test yesterday I = had in my car the IC7200 on 473.5 USB and a portable computer (only 2 = hours of autonomy) with 3G. I stay on place only during 40 minutes. That = is the story. I catch one spot from Dale. What that means ? The Beverage and not power line helps a lot giving a = very low noise level. The use of the 473.5 USB QRG is good, because = there is not any QRM on this frequency. And certainly a great = propagation day, so I was lucky listening the good frequency at the best = moment. What about the use of long period of TXing, as WSPR15 or QRSS ? = For this very long path, I think that the opening duration time is too = short for that use ? Now, as Dale said to me in a mail, one spot is not sufficient to valid = that. So, I=E2=80=99ll try again but it is necessary for me to hurry, = because the beverage antenna must be dismounted in a short time. For information, I use some codes when I am receiving LF, MF or 160m: a.. F6CNI : normal, listening only WSPR2=20 b.. F6CNI/2 : I am listening both WSPR2 and WSPR15 (giving F6CNI/15 = reports for WSPR15)=20 c.. F6CNI/RX1 and F6CNI/RX2 : I use 2 RX with 2 RX antennas=20 d.. F6CNI/BEV : one RX is using the Beverage on the Golf location. Best 73. Sorry my poor english. F6CNI Andy. JN19QB From: Markus Vester=20 Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:53 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m There's a thread in the VK 600m group discussing this unusual wspr = spot: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/600m/message/6415 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: g3zjo=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m Andy Was this direct? 2013-02-16 16:44 VK1DSH 0.475078 -29 0 = QF44ms 50 F6CNI/BEV JN19qb 16832 310 Eddie G3ZJO ------=_NextPart_000_008B_01CE0D40.BDE51CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Andy
It is a pity I did not monitor MF last nite with = my=20 antenna I should have seen some trace of the VK1 signal
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Andr=C3=A9=20 Guy=C3=A9
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 = 12:08=20 PM
Subject: LF: VK1DSH reception = in France=20 WSPR 2 on 630m

From F6CNI :

 

Hello, I give you some info about = the MF=20 reception of Dale VK1DSH signal here in France.

 

For 2 weeks, the propagation = between EU / VK=20 on 160=20 meters is = great, and=20 I had some CW QSO barefoot. I think that for this DX path the = propagation on=20 MF may be similar than on 160 m ?

 

At the date of this event, between = the Dale=20 and Andy QTH, the best moment is a bit before the grey line sunset in=20 France, when the sun = elevation is about=20 3=C2=B0. But on 160 meters that needs especially good propagation and = the opening=20 is rare and very short, 5 to 15 minutes only. This moment is now = around 1645=20 TU in my QTH. A bit later, when the sunrise at VK land in grey line, = that is a=20 second short period for success, around 1920 TU. That is true only for = south=20 to north hemisphere DX.

 

For north / north path (EU to east = coast or=20 centre of States) the best moment is simply in the middle of the = night. But=20 perhaps for longer path, as west coast the sunrise in Europe is better ?

 

My garden is quite large but in = centre of the=20 city, a noisy location. Antennas for LF / MF are an 85 meters long Inverted L and a K9AY. RX are = IC7200,=20 IC706MK2 and a FT1000MP.

 

Only 3 miles away from my home, there is a = golf. That is=20 my second hobby. Due to the very bad weather in France for one month, there is a very = little=20 player=E2=80=99s activity. So a week ago I hang on border of the golf = a simple=20 beverage using a very light wire. About 500 or a bit more meters long = aiming=20 to 80=C2=B0 azimuth. For the test yesterday I had in my car the IC7200 = on 473.5 USB=20 and a portable computer (only 2 hours of autonomy) with 3G. I stay on = place=20 only during 40 minutes. That is the story. I catch one spot from=20 Dale.

 

What that means ? The Beverage and not power = line helps=20 a lot giving a very low noise level. The use of the 473.5 USB QRG is = good,=20 because there is not any QRM on this frequency. And certainly a great=20 propagation day, so I was lucky listening the good frequency at the = best=20 moment. What about the use of long period of TXing, as WSPR15 or QRSS = ? For=20 this very long path, I think that the opening duration time is too = short for=20 that use ?

 

Now, as Dale said to me in a mail, = one spot=20 is not sufficient to valid that. So, I=E2=80=99ll try again but it = is necessary for me=20 to hurry, because the beverage antenna must be dismounted in a short=20 time.

 

For information, I use some codes when I am = receiving=20 LF, MF or 160m:

 

  • F6CNI : normal, listening only = WSPR2=20
  • F6CNI/2 : I am listening both WSPR2 and = WSPR15=20 (giving F6CNI/15 reports for WSPR15)=20
  • F6CNI/RX1 and F6CNI/RX2 : I use 2 RX with 2 = RX=20 antennas=20
  • F6CNI/BEV : one RX is using the Beverage on = the Golf=20 location.

 

Best 73. Sorry my poor = english.

 

F6CNI Andy. JN19QB

 

 
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on = 630m
 
There's a thread in the VK 600m group = discussing=20 this unusual wspr spot:
http://groups.ya= hoo.com/group/600m/message/6415
 
Best 73, Markus (DF6NM)
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: g3zjo
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2 and WSPR 15 on 630m

Andy

Was this = direct?

  2013-02-16 16:44     =20 VK1DSH      = 0.475078     =20 -29      0     =20 QF44ms       = 50     =20 F6CNI/BEV      = JN19qb     =20 16832     310

Eddie=20 G3ZJO

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