Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id AB5983800008D; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 20:13:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TsNj2-0005RN-It for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 01:11:32 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TsNj1-0005RE-SL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 01:11:31 +0000 Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com ([209.85.223.180]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TsNiz-0007MJ-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 01:11:30 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id c10so24554572ieb.25 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:11:07 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=31Ek2ETzjcrYRJKbiuykzzf2UEkV8euvBNjNW/oCOr8=; b=Z8mx08p4bIpecx+XKfRa+epqHxxQVXNFFBsmFC8Hsv6hV7N08tP17xvbQj+o+ZOJed em+olJMQyrsJtMjYwZKkOtVyyqF5Q7NipAETDxKYKg3pjjZSalLo9eY3HmbDVC8a9KHk qUS+ZWJn5U8ztN2Z3IsZ9iVIoLu4rkcfNMrbMa6+TuRbvXr3Ub7pvTqM7yRMHoLsV4OG emuKrCsj4dayw/RbdhiuofOBcYxUHPw1aPL6EpLuGRVQeX/6DtPcxNrbssGGI+lj+PBF iV9Awolr3sdNa0MwY7BJQfIN9s3UwzD+gsxbZVQMOyRRofQ6kWEqgoejn+XQAT2desri lQdQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.150.142 with SMTP id ui14mr7161152igb.93.1357607467048; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 17:11:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.231.157.74 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:11:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1357606435.22427.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> References: <1357561166.96226.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1357566320.97293.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1357567457.74036.YahooMailNeo@web133201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1357606435.22427.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 12:11:06 +1100 Message-ID: From: Dimitrios Tsifakis To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Pete, the problem with a .hex file is that it will contain my callsign, not yours! You will need to compile your own, however, if that's what stops you from making a transmitter or a general purpose QRSS3 keyer like this, I could program a 12F675 pic with your details and send it to you. Or, if you have a pic programmer, I could compile the code and produce a .hex with your call. Or, I can just send you the code and you can modify it to suit your needs :-) Let me know. 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You will need to compile your own, however, if that's what stops you from making a transmitter or a general purpose QRSS3 keyer like this, I could program a 12F675 pic with your details and send it to you. Or, if you have a pic programmer, I could compile the code and produce a .hex with your call. Or, I can just send you the code and you can modify it to suit your needs :-) Let me know. It's funny, my 807 transmitter combines "hollow state" technology, microcontrollers (keyer) and DDS (VFO) :-) Oh, I use an IRF720 to key the 807 (cathode keying is tricky), I think I could eeeasily get 20 W out of the IRF720 in class D/E. But that wouldn't be fun! 73, Dimitris VK1SV 2013/1/8 M0FMT : > Thanks for the info Dimitrios. > > Please let the list know when you have got something with that rig design= it > sounds good. I hope you will publish the HEX code for the PIC as I can > program the chips so long as I have it. Its my biggest gripe that PIC > projects leave you high and dry without the HEX code. > > However I like the idea of the little rig. I will get an e bay xtal as we= ll > .... great stuff!! > > Here I have a series of tube QRP rigs 160/80 CW AM FM FSK xtal/VFO and a > 10meter CW FSK xtal 28.060 and a 600m rig 6.500-6.000=3D0.5 xtal mixer vx= o > which is now modified for 472/9 all based around 12ax7 6au6 and 6CL6 pa. = The > 630m version is now modified with yet another 12AX7 to carrier controlled > screen ac couple AM modulation. Yes we are playing with QRP AM on 630m it > doesn't have much range but is OK cross town but we are aware of other 63= 0m > users. > 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > > From: Dimitrios Tsifakis > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 21:17 > Subject: Re: Fw: LF: 475kHz crystal > > Hi Pete, > > It's always good to know there is a decent and reliable (and not > expensive!) crystal seller! > > By the way, I noticed that since I posted this message, about half a > dozen 15200 kHz crystals were sold on eBay. Shall we be looking for > for some 475 kHz signals in the near future? :-) I am planning to > produce the simplest transmitter ever for 475 kHz and put the write-up > in my web page. So far, this is the idea: A PIC ('cause I have plenty) > produces the QRSS keying. It connects to the reset pin of a 74HC4060. > There is a xtal oscillator on the 74HC4060 using the 15.2 MHz xtal. > The output feeds a logic-level gate MOSFET. At this stage I am looking > for a suitable MOSFET that can be driven directly by 5 V. There are > plenty out there, any suggestions are welcome! > > > Here in Oz, and while we wait for the international community to > produce a band plan, we decided to concentrate all our activities on > 475 kHz for QRSS/Digital and 473 for normal CW. Given the transmitting > station density, it's perfectly OK to have QRSS signal mixed up with > WSPR signals here. In fact, it is desirable to do that, as with a > whopping 7 kHz of space, sub-noise signals are like the proverbial > needle in the haystack. > > 73, Dimitris VK1SV > > 2013/1/8 M0FMT : >> Hi Dimitrios >> >> Sorry my lovely chart will not go through blacksheep so here is the raw >> list.. >> >> Thks fr enquiry Peter >> OK have flwg ex-stock:- >> 15.010MHz HC6/U pin end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.01875MHz HC18/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab .= .. >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.0222MHz HC18/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ..= . >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.02246MHz HC6/U pin end, Glassholder, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Good >> Freq Stab ... =A33-95/unit >> 15.0865MHz HC25/U pin end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.1125MHz HC18/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ..= . >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.12084MHz HC18/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab .= .. >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.128MHz HC6/U pin end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.150MHz HC18/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.1515MHz HC18/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ..= . >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.1792MHz HC6/U pin end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.200MHz HC49/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A33-25/unit >> 15.2125MHz HC6/U pin end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.2209MHz HC6/U pin end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.2209MHz HC25/U pin end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.225MHz HC49/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A33-25/unit >> 15.2292MHz HC25/U pin end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.24074MHz HC18/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab .= .. >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.250MHz HC49/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A33-25/unit >> 15.26875MHz HC18/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab .= .. >> =A32-95/unit >> 15.275MHz HC49/U wire end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A33-25/unit >> 15.2963MHz HC25/U pin end, Fund, Par Res, 30pF load C, Std Freq Stab ... >> =A32-95/unit >> >> >> >> Hi Dimitrios >> >> See attached list of 15meg xtals with prices from Vincent Jakomin a >> thoroughly good guy!! No, no shares in his company. >> For Europe p&p is =A32-50 1st Class Airmail. >> Send to:- >> Vincent Jakomin >> 69 Angus Close >> CHESSINGTON >> Surtrey KT9 2BN >> vincent jakomin ; >> >> Not sure if the Blacksheep will handle a file of 350kb so copy direct as >> well. >> >> Good luck >> 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX >> >> From: Dimitrios Tsifakis >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 5:24 >> Subject: LF: 475kHz crystal >> >> Hello LF/MF group, >> >> I though this may be of interest to those what would like to build the >> simplest transmitter possible for MF. >> >> I found these cheap crystals on eBay: >> >> >> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2-PCS-15200-KHz-HC-49-U-X-TAL-Bargain-Pack-HC= 49U-/320828846717?pt=3DUK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=3Ditem= 4ab2e3b27d >> >> They are 15200 kHz which can be conveniently used with a 74HC4060 to >> make an oscillator, then connect to the divide_by_32 line for a nice, >> stable 475 kHz signal. You can then drive a class-E FET PA for any >> kind of power you like. >> >> 73, Dimitris VK1SV >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >