Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7A37738000081; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 13:45:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TvuS7-0005iB-4p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:44:39 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TvuS6-0005i2-KT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:44:38 +0000 Received: from mail-qa0-f52.google.com ([209.85.216.52]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TvuRy-0004xK-3n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:44:37 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id d13so2370780qak.4 for ; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:44:08 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/d7BySe9fs4AeJknIBkpHXIzezDxcmJhNSNHulL3inQ=; b=VZ2QNJwrViuTy912tiLht11gCxxJdC+Sn8g6WqboKUXHhX7vbBek83aYv6/xZb4/ug XiI1HBrw6yYtB9OO3YYZLyt0BS6JeXt+lrtIxnUxzK1oVaB8RfaCT3WAted/QntraSUv /gHALa5Bdo04NthX3rCgKSvx8Jopc8rrvTRasKM65FPhcFHU9w4fjiMvjjH3nzitbGK5 n5hcMUBPTuiscMaqG5+1VxtRcLqpqyOJ+nwuHr3YO97oQakutIf2ru518JvyfVc9iw3C WRTo9i17S8kP34WmzjDDskduMbqofvkSH+Y0YnhTzuc0sqYYuAK89Ex8Hf0j6t1MIilp pngg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.49.96.33 with SMTP id dp1mr7423345qeb.60.1358448248307; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:44:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.156.18 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jan 2013 10:44:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B52EADB3E8E4CC594F35CF05BD07140@IBM7FFA209F07C> References: <4B52EADB3E8E4CC594F35CF05BD07140@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 18:44:08 +0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: As an AM fan (on 10m and 2m) I am also disappointed that the RSGB has still not acknowledged that 10m AM has/is actually been centred 29-29.1MHz for as long as I can remember. According to the RSGB the all-mode section *starts*at 29.1MHz: I've never worked an AM station in the last 20 years except between 29 - 29.1MHz, and there are plenty to be worked. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.216.52 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rogerlapthorn[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 34d483c57c7a6bf26c25db3c8765d5fc Subject: Re: LF: RadCom February 2013 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6da40c4941aa04d380612d X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601750f846d25957 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --047d7b6da40c4941aa04d380612d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 As an AM fan (on 10m and 2m) I am also disappointed that the RSGB has still not acknowledged that 10m AM has/is actually been centred 29-29.1MHz for as long as I can remember. According to the RSGB the all-mode section *starts*at 29.1MHz: I've never worked an AM station in the last 20 years except between 29 - 29.1MHz, and there are plenty to be worked. The 144.55MHz AM "centre of activity", which has been in common, if not great, use for several years is still just a begrudging footnote, whereas FAX calling (who uses FAX???) has a dedicated 2m frequency. It seems that those making these bandplans never operate! Rant over and now to get WSPR-15 set-up on 472kHz. 73s Roger G3XBM On 17 January 2013 17:00, Chris wrote: > ** > I was surprised to see on page 9 of the latest RSGB RadCom under '2013 > Band Plans', a statement re the 472 - 479kHz band:- "Activity is limited to > modes with 500Hz bandwidth or less". The implication here is that this is > what Ofcom has specified, especially as in the sentence before it refers to > the Notice of Variation. As such, the statement is quite *misleading* and > *untrue*. > Who at the RSGB has decided on this new rule? Why does the RSGB feel the > need to impose such a rule? It looks like they are dictating to the > membership, rather than representing them. Frankly a bit of a cheek. > I note later in 'LF' by Dave, G3YXM, on page 55, the correct statement is > made, referring to the *only change* in the licence conditions being the > power limitation. > Come back Pete (FMT)! All is forgiven!! > Vy 73, > Chris, G4AYT. > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM --047d7b6da40c4941aa04d380612d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As an AM fan (on 10m and 2m) I am also= disappointed that the RSGB has still not acknowledged that 10m AM has/is a= ctually been centred 29-29.1MHz for as long as I can remember.=A0 According= to the RSGB the all-mode section starts at 29.1MHz: I've never = worked an AM station in the last 20 years except between 29 - 29.1MHz, and = there are plenty to be worked.

The 144.55MHz AM "centre of activity", which has been in comm= on, if not great, use for several years is still just a begrudging footnote= , whereas FAX calling (who uses FAX???) has a dedicated 2m frequency.

It seems that those making these bandplans never operate!

=
Rant over and now to get WSPR-15 set-up on 472kHz.

73s <= br>
Roger G3XBM


On 17 January 2013 17:00, Chris <c.ashby435@btinternet.com>= wrote:
I was=A0surprised to see on page 9 of the latest= =20 RSGB RadCom under '2013 Band Plans',=A0a statement re the 472 - 479= kHz band:-=20 "Activity is limited to modes with 500Hz bandwidth or less". The = implication=20 here is that this is what Ofcom has specified, especially as in the sentenc= e=20 before it refers to the Notice of Variation. As such, the statement is quit= e=20 misleading and untrue.
Who at the RSGB has decided on this new rule? Why= =20 does the RSGB feel the need to impose such a rule? It looks like they are= =20 dictating to the membership, rather than representing them. Frankly a bit o= f a=20 cheek.
I note later in 'LF' by Dave, G3YXM, on p= age 55,=20 the correct statement is made, referring to the only change in=20 the licence conditions being the power limitation.
Come back Pete (FMT)! All is=20 forgiven!!
Vy 73,
Chris, G4AYT.



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