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Being able to select the internal soundcard or an external one from within the program might be more convenient, so something to consider for the future. Regarding the earth electrodes, they are 2 x 1m long copper earth rods driven all the way into the soil. My chalk bedrock is about 1.5-2m down, so not quite reaching this. Someone suggested that insulating the rods until the bedrock is reached might help reduce losses in the wet soil. I am hoping to have the new 136kHz transverter up and running next week and I will try QRSS3 or 30 with it feeding the earth electrodes initially and do some local "drive around" tests to see how the signal varies locally - i.e. see how directional the system is at 136kHz. Incidentally, a couple of years ago G3XDV copied my QRSS3 beacon on 136kHz at 61km when I was running just 2.5W into the earth electrodes. I should be able to run 10dB more next week. 73s Roger G3XBM On 12 January 2013 18:30, Rik Strobbe wrote: > Hello Roger, > > > > both QRS as Multitone do use the default soundcard. > > Both applications were developed in the Windows 98 area, when a single > sound card was standard and USB sound cards not existing -;) > > So far I haven't had a request to select the soundcard from withinthese applications > but I am willing to have a look how to implement this. > > At the moment you will have to set the desired sound card as the default > . How this is done depend on the operating system. > > Recently I modified QRS so that the audio out volume can be set from > within the application. I haven't released this version yet, but I itis usefulto youI can > send you the beta version. > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > PS: one more question abot the ground antenna: how long (deep in the > ground) were the the ground rods you used? > > > ------------------------------ > *Van:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [ > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Roger Lapthorn [ > rogerlapthorn@gmail.com] > *Verzonden:* zaterdag 12 januari 2013 18:15 > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Onderwerp:* LF: Re: What is the best QRSS software to allow QRSS to be > generated as an AUDIO tone? > > Thanks for replies so far, but I am still unable to see how to output > a QRSS audio tone e.g. from QRS or Multitone software to an *external*audio card like SignaLink USB when using a laptop with only USB interfaces. > It seems quite a simple requirement so am surprised not to find this > supported. > > OK I could built an audio derived PTT keyer using the line out, but it > would be so much simpler to use the SignaLink USB interface for all data > modes and, as far as I can see, there is no software to support this. I am > excluding Spectrum Laboratory, which I'm afraid I find very hard to use and > remember how to use! > > Help! > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > On 12 January 2013 13:20, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > >> Some advice please. >> >> What is the best available PC program that will allow me to generate a >> QRSS signal as an AUDIO tone so that I can use my SignaLink USB interface >> to my TX/transverter as I do for OPERA, JT9-x and WSPR with VOX keying? >> >> I am about to build a new transverter for 136kHz to do some >> earth-electrode antenna tests and would like to be able to use the same >> interface.. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> >> -- >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ >> http://qss2.blogspot.com/ >> >> > > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > http://qss2.blogspot.com/ > http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM --20cf3033441948ee4a04d31c2241 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Rik.

I will try QRS and Multimode= selecting the external USB connected sound card as the default soundcard a= nd see if that works. Being able to select the internal soundcard or an ext= ernal one from within the program might be more convenient, so something to= consider for the future.

Regarding the earth electrodes, they are 2 x 1m long copper earth= rods driven all the way into the soil. My chalk bedrock is about 1.5-2m do= wn, so not quite reaching this. Someone suggested that insulating the rods = until the bedrock is reached might help reduce losses in the wet soil.=A0 I= am hoping to have the new 136kHz transverter up and running next week and = I will try QRSS3 or 30 with it feeding the earth electrodes initially and d= o some local "drive around" tests to see how the signal varies lo= cally - i.e. see how directional the system is at 136kHz. Incidentally, a c= ouple of years ago G3XDV copied my QRSS3 beacon on 136kHz at 61km when I wa= s running just 2.5W into the earth electrodes. I should be able to run 10dB= more next week.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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= On 12 January 2013 18:30, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.= be> wrote:

Hello=A0Roger,

=A0

both=A0QRS as=A0Multitone do=A0u= se the=A0default soundcard.

Both=A0applications=A0were=A0developed in the= Windows 98 area,=A0when a single sound card was=A0standard and=A0USB sound=A0cards=A0not=A0existing = -;)

So=A0far I=A0haven't had a= =A0request to select the=A0soundcard=A0from=A0within these=A0applications=A0but I=A0am=A0willing to have a look=A0how to=A0implement this.

At the moment=A0you=A0will have to set the=A0desired= sound card as the default.=A0How=A0this is=A0d= one=A0depend=A0on the=A0operating system.

Recently=A0I=A0modified=A0QRS=A0= so=A0that the audio out volume=A0can=A0be set= =A0from=A0within the application. I=A0haven't=A0released=A0this=A0version yet,=A0but I=A0it is=A0useful to=A0you = I=A0can=A0send=A0you the=A0beta version.=

=A0

73, Rik=A0=A0ON7YD - OR7T

=A0

PS:=A0one more=A0question=A0abot the=A0ground= antenna:=A0how long=A0(deep in the ground)=A0w= ere the the=A0ground=A0rods=A0you used?<= /font>

=A0

Van= : owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<= /a>] namens Roger Lapthorn [rogerlapthorn@gmail.com]
Verzonden: zaterdag 12 januari 2013 18:15
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: What is the best QRSS software to allow QRSS to b= e generated as an AUDIO tone?

Thanks for replies so far, but I am still unable to see how to output = a QRSS audio tone e.g. from QRS or Multitone software to an external audio card like SignaLink USB when using a laptop with only= USB interfaces. It seems quite a simple requirement so am surprised not to= find this supported.

OK I could built an audio derived PTT keyer using the line out, but it woul= d be so much simpler to use the SignaLink USB interface for all data modes = and, as far as I can see, there is no software to support this. I am exclud= ing Spectrum Laboratory, which I'm afraid I find very hard to use and remember how to use!

Help!

73s
Roger G3XBM


On 12 January 2013 13:20, Roger Lapthorn <rogerlapth= orn@gmail.com> wrote:
Some advice please.

What is the best available PC program that will allow me to generate a QRSS= signal as an AUDIO tone so that I can use my SignaLink USB interface to my= TX/transverter as I do for OPERA, JT9-x and WSPR with VOX keying?

I am about to build a new transverter for 136kHz to do some earth-electrode= antenna tests and would like to be able to use the same interface..

73s
Roger G3XBM

--
http://g3xbm-q= rp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk=
https:= //sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/
http://qss2.blogspo= t.com/




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