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I don't recall seeing this anywhere yet. This is where a "light touch" guidance band plan would be helpful. 73s Roger G3XBM On 25 January 2013 22:01, Graham wrote: > DATA modes > > Not even that Mal, only been a few data qso's since the band > was released , very odd , but I think , mode to RF generation remains a > big problem > > G.. > > ------------------------------**-------------------- > From: "mal hamilton" > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 7:14 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: LF es MF > > Chris >> There are stns working CW but mostly amongst themselves above 500 Khz. I >> have not listened for some time so not sure what is happening at present. >> In the past the ones that I have heard are usual in Beacon mode at around >> 5 >> wpm or QRSS. >> I have worked both the USA es Canada on 500 Khz CW some years back but >> this >> was pre arranged and CW was more popular and no DATA modes about like the >> present time. >> There is very little mention from across the pond on this reflector about >> what is happening at present regarding working in QSO mode across to >> Europe >> It seems BEACONS and DATA modes are popular at present but I prefer CW >> I hope this answers your question but you could ask on the reflector if >> anyone across the pond is interested in CW QSO operating with Europe and >> see >> if anyone responds. >> 73 es gl de mal/g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "C. Groeger" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:41 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: LF es MF >> >> >> Mal, >>> Are there stns qrv in normal cw in US and Canada on mf? >>> I'm just building big mf antenna and would like to try dx.. >>> Here no qrs possible. >>> 73, df5qg >>> >>> Christian Groeger >>> >>> mal hamilton schrieb: >>> >>> >Laurence >>> >tnx for the info. >>> >The excitement of 136 Khz has long gone when there was no Internet >>> >> involvement. I used to call CQ on CW or QRSS and QSX 7033 Kcs. The >> excitement started when I got replies from the USA and Canada to the West >> and the Russians the East. >> >>> >and conducted a proper two way QSO, plus lots of CW QSO'S around EU >>> >There is no pleasure churning out a BEACON 24/7 unattended and hoping >>> >> that someone reports reception via the Internet. >> >>> >I only Transmit if there is a chance of getting a two way QSO. It worked >>> >> well back then so that is what I expect now. >> >>> >The same applies to MF. That band has also turned into a BEACON 24/7 >>> >> operation most of the time. >> >>> >Machine handshaking Machine if the Machine is lucky !! >>> >G3KEV >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: Laurence KL1 X >>> > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> > Cc: rsgb >>> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 6:14 PM >>> > Subject: Re: LF: LF es MF >>> > >>> > >>> > Look forward to seeing your signal in KL7 someday Mal - hasnt happened >>> >> yet sadly. >> >>> > >>> > >>> > To date Ive never seen LF/MF signals from Eu that wouldnt require a >>> >> little more than ear/brain decode processing >> >>> > >>> > Laurence in VE5 >>> > >>> > On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:19 AM, "mal hamilton" >>> >> wrote: >> >>> > >>> > >>> > LF es MF >>> > Is there anyone able to QSO these days on either CW or QRSS on the >>> >> 136 or 472 Khz bands, or where appropriate xband. >> >>> > I am not interested in BEACON 24/7 hoping for a HIT somewhere in the >>> >> world.even though at this time of year propagation is optimum. >> >>> > I would prefer to go back to the past where QSO mode was the normal >>> >> procedure and not QSL via internet. >> >>> > At present I would expect to be able to QSO with KL7 es YV if they >>> >> were suitably equipped to Transmit on QRSS 30 - 60 >> >>> > I do not think anyone from the UK or EU has made a QSO on LF/MF in >>> >> recent years across to North America or Russia on either CW or QRSS >> >>> > >>> > De G3KEV >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM --20cf3074d22ce3b52d04d424a1c8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Regarding data on 472kHz band, apart from W= SPR and CW (where I know where to operate) where can I find the preferred f= requency slots for JT9, OPERA etc? I don't recall seeing this anywhere = yet.

This is where a "light touch"=A0 guidance band plan wou= ld be helpful.

73s
Roger G3XBM


On 25 January 2013 22:0= 1, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
DATA modes

Not =A0even =A0that =A0Mal, =A0only been =A0 a few =A0data =A0qso's =A0= since the =A0band =A0was released , very odd , but I think , mode to =A0RF = generation =A0remains =A0a =A0big problem

G..

--------------------------------------------------
From: "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 7:14 PM
To: <r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Subject: Re: LF: LF es MF

Chris
There are stns working CW but mostly amongst themselves above 500 Khz. I have not listened for some time so not sure what is happening at present. In the past the ones that I have heard are usual in Beacon mode at around 5=
wpm or QRSS.
I have worked both the USA es Canada on 500 Khz CW some years back but this=
was pre arranged and CW was more popular and no DATA modes about like the present time.
There is very little mention from across the pond on this reflector about what is happening at present regarding working in QSO mode across to Europe=
It seems BEACONS and DATA modes are popular at present but I prefer CW
I hope this answers your question but you could ask on the reflector if
anyone across the pond is interested in CW QSO operating with Europe and se= e
if anyone responds.
73 es gl de mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Groeger" <aot.aot@gmx.de>
To: <r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: LF: LF es MF


Mal,
Are there stns qrv in normal cw in US and Canada on mf?
I'm just building big mf antenna and would like to try dx..
Here no qrs possible.
73, df5qg

Christian Groeger

mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> schrieb:

>Laurence
>tnx for the info.
>The excitement of 136 Khz has long gone when there was no Internet
involvement. I used to call CQ on CW or QRSS and QSX 7033 Kcs. The
excitement started when I got replies from the USA and Canada to the West and the Russians the East.
>and conducted a proper two way QSO, plus lots of CW QSO'S around EU=
>There is no pleasure churning out a BEACON 24/7 unattended and hoping
that someone reports reception via the Internet.
>I only Transmit if there is a chance of getting a two way QSO. It worke= d
well back then so that is what I expect now.
>The same applies to MF. That band has also turned into a BEACON 24/7
operation most of the time.
>Machine handshaking Machine if the Machine is lucky !!
>G3KEV
>
>
>
>
> =A0----- Original Message -----
> =A0From: Laurence KL1 X
> =A0To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> =A0Cc: rsgb
> =A0Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 6:14 PM
> =A0Subject: Re: LF: LF es MF
>
>
> =A0Look forward to seeing your signal in KL7 someday Mal - hasnt happe= ned
yet sadly.
>
>
> =A0 To date Ive never seen LF/MF signals from Eu that wouldnt require = a
little more than ear/brain decode processing
>
> =A0Laurence in VE5
>
> =A0On Jan 16, 2013, at 11:19 AM, "mal hamilton" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
wrote:
>
>
> =A0 =A0LF es MF
> =A0 =A0Is there anyone able to QSO these days on either CW or QRSS on = the
136 or 472 Khz bands, or where appropriate xband.
> =A0 =A0I am not interested in BEACON 24/7 hoping for a HIT somewhere i= n the
world.even though at this time of year propagation is optimum.
> =A0 =A0I would prefer to go back to the past where QSO mode was the no= rmal
procedure and not QSL via internet.
> =A0 =A0At present I would expect to be able to QSO with KL7 es YV if t= hey
were suitably equipped to Transmit on QRSS 30 - 60
> =A0 =A0I do not think anyone from the UK or EU =A0has made a QSO on LF= /MF in
recent years across to North America or Russia on either CW or QRSS
>
> =A0 =A0De G3KEV
>
>
>







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