Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 27F3338000086; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 17:55:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TtOQy-0003w9-62 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:09:04 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TtOQt-0003w0-5B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:08:59 +0000 Received: from mail-qa0-f45.google.com ([209.85.216.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TtOQq-0006zY-DT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:08:57 +0000 Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id j15so2014956qaq.4 for ; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:08:34 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=QRIwYVPIjPFQZSJS2hdKACsVt0K/DG4rteCU6/SEdJE=; b=FLib2PWmHlu9/d8N5XooPE+yVztnslTrz7CzirzDdY94eDaCRaYWZ7uq4FCisWk3ZL BTrI6ofOPC7iad6wqOHfvPyplrHDf+0PEEe9GIa/NlpmoLSjH0GybOOo3zkEP9QqXyor Wm8zwbs/TI31srPQ3IaoEu9s9ZlEi0HN+0PxUI78axoW5um03rgLttugyutjxbFyHjr+ j3SJgXoE5PcUxrXYSpVDsqi9Aaxo9LO0gHq23nSXxT5y7ZSajDrj7oeGHXM1YEnNO49e R7cwL76ZBnQTMn/PT1iGOyRXd6ibWhu3N9fiqjuYqGcvUwuLcpfNMOlWEV0lVe2t7vbI cCBg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.48.43 with SMTP id i11mr69297553qen.3.1357848514418; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.156.18 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:08:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <007e01cdef5d$1a062620$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <007e01cdef5d$1a062620$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 20:08:34 +0000 Message-ID: From: Roger Lapthorn To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Mal, Although I am not WSPR TXing this evening, the quantitative measurements on earth-electrode antennas carried out over the last few days would simply not have been possible without a stream of WSPR reports from very many stations. 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A large quantity of data was collected using several different TX antennas over the course of several days/nights and this allowed me, Rik OR7T, Jim M0BMU and others to calculate how effective my various antenna configurations were. In a small way, I think we all found out something new by doing this fascinating exercise. So, please don't belittle the benefits of WSPR and similar beaconing modes: they are helping in "self training". Just because you don't enjoy these modes, it does not mean that others don't. You enjoy your CW DXing and I'll enjoy my hobby in a different, but equally valid way. There is space for us all. 73s Roger G3XBM On 10 January 2013 18:05, mal hamilton wrote: > ** > MF > At present 5 stns active some DX on QRSS mode, unfortunately in BEACON > mode otherwise QSO'S are possible. > This frequency seems to have turned into a BEACON BASHER QRSS freq and NO > qso mode. > Beacons are not really necessary on this band because of the abundance of > NDB Beacons for propagation purposes. > It seems to be a habit now to BEACON and QSL via Internet on this band > instead of engaging in real time QSO;S > I have been on this frequency lately using QRSS 5 for DX qso purposes and > QSX 7033 but so far no calls in real time. > If this frequency is going to be used for BEACONS only it might be better > to QSY to either band edge top or bottom out of the way. > preferably TOP to avoid QRM to the CW STNS active at the bottom end. > > 73 de mal/g3kev > > > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ --047d7b6d89c25c582504d2f4beae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mal,

Although I am not WSPR TXing this evening= , the quantitative measurements on earth-electrode antennas carried out ove= r the last few days would simply not have been possible without a stream of= WSPR reports from very many stations.

A large quantity of data was collected using several different TX anten= nas over the course of several days/nights and this allowed me, Rik OR7T, J= im M0BMU and others to calculate how effective my various antenna configura= tions were.

In a small way, I think we all found out something new by doing this fa= scinating exercise.=A0 So, please don't belittle the benefits of WSPR a= nd similar beaconing modes: they are helping in "self training".<= br>
Just because you don't enjoy these modes, it does not me= an that others don't. You enjoy your CW DXing and I'll enjoy my hob= by in a different, but equally valid way.

There is space = for us all.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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On 10 January= 2013 18:05, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> wrote:=
MF
At present 5 stns active some DX on QRSS=20 mode,=A0=A0unfortunately in BEACON mode otherwise QSO'S are=20 possible.
This frequency seems to have turned into a BEACON= BASHER=20 QRSS freq and NO qso mode.
Beacons are not really necessary on this band bec= ause of=20 the abundance of NDB Beacons for propagation purposes.
It seems to be a habit now to BEACON and QSL via = Internet=20 on this band instead of engaging in real time QSO;S
I have been on this frequency lately using QRSS 5= for DX=20 qso purposes and QSX 7033 but so far no calls in real time.
If this frequency is going to be used for BEACONS= only it=20 might be better to QSY to either band edge top or bottom out of the=20 way.
preferably TOP to avoid QRM to the CW STNS active= at the=20 bottom end.
=A0
73 de mal/g3kev
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