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(VPS 130107-1, 07.01.2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Pete and group >> maybe we can bring http://www.hanssummers.com/ for also offering >> 630m-Band versions of his QRSS and WSPR kits. > He doesn't seem to have taken MF on board as far as I can see. May one of > his rigs can be modified I have not checked my self. He does mention the use of Si570 programable xtal. I have one on a board with set frequencies from a PIC and selected by binary from a dil switch. They will not operate as low as 500kc/s so they have to be divided with either a CD4040 or CD4060 or any other logic divider. However it gives stable selectable xtal frequencies. In this case it is probably worth going the extra mile and make up a DSS as the master oscillator which will give VFO coverage. I think your pays your money and takes you choice as they say....... hee. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [194.25.41.13 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Scan-Signature: 046f068074e745d5c60ca47deee9b503 Subject: Re: Fw: LF: 475kHz crystal Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc14650ebfce44c9d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Pete and group >> maybe we can bring http://www.hanssummers.com/ for also offering >> 630m-Band versions of his QRSS and WSPR kits. > He doesn't seem to have taken MF on board as far as I can see. May one of > his rigs can be modified I have not checked my self. He does mention the use of Si570 programable xtal. I have one on a board with set frequencies from a PIC and selected by binary from a dil switch. They will not operate as low as 500kc/s so they have to be divided with either a CD4040 or CD4060 or any other logic divider. However it gives stable selectable xtal frequencies. In this case it is probably worth going the extra mile and make up a DSS as the master oscillator which will give VFO coverage. I think your pays your money and takes you choice as they say....... hee. What i intend to do, is building a relatively simple Stand-Alone WSPR beacon for 630m-Band. Using a Si570 with additional divider seemed to be quite an expensive solution. So i did order 7611.2 KHz crystal ( there is a company manucturing crystals according to given frequency ). By using a HCF4060B oscillator/divider this should give a stable signal around WSPR midden frequency 475.7 KHz. WSPR signal generation is planned according to http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/WSPR/WWVB_WSPR%20VCXO%20Contoller.pdf where ( for use in Europe ) i intend to use DCF77 time signals instead of WWVB. Suitable PIC program version is made by PE1NWL and available via http://www.knology.net/~gmarcus/ , while DCF77 receiver module is obtainable from Conrad Electronics. Because of later signal division by 16, this conception will require a multiplication of crystal FSK deviation by same factor. For WSPR this should result in values around 23.43 Hz which ( i hope ) will not cause any problem. So far my plans in the moment, but of course it would be much easier, in case somebody would offer a kit already doing all i like. .. Klaus, DJ7OO