Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D3C1638000338; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 03:04:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TxCM2-0003hG-Ak for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:03:42 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TxCM1-0003h7-Q0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:03:41 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.129] helo=cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TxCLz-0001u9-Qa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:03:40 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: ADBAA1380BF.AF608 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-2e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.34]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADBAA1380BF for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:03:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB1.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub1.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4943E2004C for ; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:03:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::312b:f3bc:9c4:4ebb]) by ICTS-S-HUB1.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::f5f7:d8cc:bee0:28d3%26]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Mon, 21 Jan 2013 09:03:08 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: Countries MF Thread-Index: AQHN9yrmXZcMX5BVgUqAFtQ7mZ2pRJhSZLsAgAAnhtqAABE9AIAAIP1Z///1MACAALc7hA== Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2013 08:03:08 +0000 Message-ID: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB6B1BF@ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be> References: <000a01cdf72a$83b867c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf>, <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB6AF55@ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be>,<1DDE192F96FB4A2783B5CCCEC13EE6F0@AGB> <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB6AFE1@ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be>, In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.112.13.12] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 134.58.240.129 (rhcavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be) used invalid HELO/EHLO cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be - verification failed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: another try: 3 technical / scientific reasons to say it is one band: - frequencies are only 6% apart (only 4% if you take 501/479) - same antenna's, same equipment used - propagation will hardly differ [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [134.58.240.129 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 2ee80849a5d572dbc974bb207a527753 Subject: RE: LF: Countries MF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad050fcf69f0d51 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none another try: 3 technical / scientific reasons to say it is one band: - frequencies are only 6% apart (only 4% if you take 501/479) - same antenna's, same equipment used - propagation will hardly differ 1 bureaucratic reason to say it are 2 bands. Here I rest my case. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens Graham [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] Verzonden: zondag 20 januari 2013 22:59 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: Countries MF 5.2585 to 5.4065 MHz =3D the 'Band' The sub groups are 11 =3D individual band segments. the 'BAND' is still defined as 5.2585 to 5.4065 MHz Good try , but still the same :( G::) -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rik Strobbe" Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 9:40 PM To: Subject: RE: LF: Countries MF > so in the UK you have 11 ham bands between 5258.5 and 5406.5kHz ;-) > See > http://www.rsgb.org/committees/spectrumforum/operating-on-5mhz-in-the-uk.= php > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > ________________________________________ > Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Graham > [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] > Verzonden: zondag 20 januari 2013 21:39 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Onderwerp: Re: LF: Countries MF > > Would be so , if there where not for band edges being defined > > In this case, the qso took place inside each others band edges , so > its defiantly cross band > > G :) > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Rik Strobbe" > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:45 PM > To: > Subject: RE: LF: Countries MF > >> Hi Tony, >> >> I would call our QSO not as x-band but just split-frequency. >> 501kHz and 472kHz is just a ratio of 1.06 (or 6% apart). >> To compare: 160m (1810-2000kHz) has a ratio of 1.10, 80m (3500-3800) has >> a >> ratio of 1.09, 10m (28-29.7MHz) has a ratio of 1.06 and so on. >> So far I am still bound to 501-504kHz :-( ... but at the bright sight: >> only very few hams call say they have their own private frequency segmen= t >> (till another ON would join me). >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens traumwandler@sensemail.ch >> [traumwandler@sensemail.ch] >> Verzonden: zondag 20 januari 2013 18:16 >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Onderwerp: Re: LF: Countries MF >> >> So far I've worked in CW: >> G, GI, GW, EI, SM, PA, OK, OM, DL, HB9, S57, YO, and ON (X-Band >> 500kHz), F and OH (X-Band 3.5 MHz) >> Where are the stations from OZ, LA and GM? >> 73 de HB9ASB >> >> >> Am 20.01.2013 17:23, schrieb mal hamilton: >>> MF >>> >>> Since 1st Jan 2013 the following countries have been worked on CW. >>> DL, EI0, OK2, OM1, PA3, GW4, GI4, HB9, LA9, S57. Lots of others have >>> been worked from the same countries. >>> Looking out for DX contacts if anyone is available on CW >>> >>> DE G3KEV=