From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
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Thread-Topic: LF: Listened on 472 kHz
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Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:28:25 +0000
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Hello Tony,

I could hear you serveral time with very good signal. Also other activity f=
rom PA, DL, G, GI and EI.
But I noticed more than once that 2 or 3 stations are transmitting between =
472 and 473kHz (sometimes hard to read them due to mutual QRM) while remain=
der of the band is empty.
Until further notice from BIPT I am still restricted to 501-504kHz :-(.
Whoever needs ON for a new country: we can make a sked and work split-frequ=
ency.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

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Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
] namens traumwandler@sensemail.ch [traumwandler@sensemail.ch]
Verzonden: maandag 14 januari 2013 12:25
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: Listened on 472 kHz

Hello Petr
Direct CW Activity is lower than I expected. Especially the UK is
disappointing. But so far I had QSO's every evening and I think I've now
a dozen or so of DXCC entities in my log, still without Malta, Norway
and Denmark, and of course Monaco. Propagation is changing very much not
only from day to day, there is also a heavy and long QSB in this band.
Sometimes stations are coming out of nowhere and popping up with 599,
just to disappear a couple of minutes later. Here in the middle of
Europe, surrounded by mountains and on rocky soil, the band is dead
during the day. Ground wave propagation is far away from 136 kHz and
goes no further than 100 or 200km. On the shore and in higher latitudes,
it is probably different.
But at night signals are good and the noise level depends on the china
appliances my neighbor is using. Sometimes I'm working QSX 3.5 MHz and I
had already very nice cross QSO=92s with D, F and HB, also with ON on 500
kHz.
Some stations are quite strong here and I hear them every night, like
Mal, G3KEV, peaking up to 599. But there are a lot of QRP stations
around with only a couple of Watts and modest antennas; they have faint
signals buried in the noise. I think these stations are far away from
the allowed EIRP.
Here I=92m compensating my bad antenna built on sand stone (100 Ohm loss,
300mOhm radiation res.) with 500 Watts. So I come probably close to the
allowed 5W EIRP.
I'm not interested in WSPR or any beacon mode. Why should I? I know
that my CW signal covers whole Europe under good condx and I like to
make CW contacts.
73 de Toni, HB9ASB, JN36nu





Am 14.01.2013 09:28, schrieb Petr Maly:
> Hello all,
>
> I can reasonably listen to LF/MF only in my /P QTH. After long long
> time I could spend almost the whole Saturday by listening on 472 kHz.
> The only station heard was DL2HRE, see the screenshot. I haven't
> heard
> any one else, and no QSO. I believe the conditions would allow the
> standard two-way CW QSOs easily.
> Is the current traffic on 472 kHz really that low? Are you all on
> WSPR? Is the activity now splitted amongst 136, 472 and 505 kHz?
> Should I listen after sunset instead? Is the number of countries with
> 472 kHz permitted for all still low?
>
> 73, Petr, OK1FIG=