Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mg04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8B0FA38008316; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:10:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TqoeL-0002CH-0Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:32:13 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TqoeK-0002C2-Hi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:32:12 +0000 Received: from smtpout2.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.42] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TqoeI-0004OP-Ns for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:32:11 +0000 Received: from AGB ([2.26.14.171]) by mwinf5d20 with ME id jVXq1k0063hSEUJ03VXqNr; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 18:31:50 +0100 Message-ID: <584A2CC594804BBF86108FC15ECD7A74@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20961.6c91afbf.3d962a97@aol.com> <1FE273E837AA4D978CBB5A745E34368A@AGB> <50E5BACC.9070803@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <50E5BACC.9070803@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 17:31:50 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Well Wolf , the band is all ready full of fixed aero beacons and for some reason wspr is also now located in the middle of the band , very strange , must be quite a problem in the more 'densely' populated south , at least one wspr station is running 24/7 from 00:00 , it was advertised as so . I agree keep to the edges [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: e57013951ca4c86ddcf48e741efd2b78 Subject: Re: LF: 630m Band Plan Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0135_01CDE9D8.36813EA0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60cc50e5c99249ca X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01CDE9D8.36813EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well Wolf , the band is all ready full of fixed aero beacons and = for some reason wspr is also now located in the middle of the = band , very strange , must be quite a problem in the more 'densely' = populated south , at least one wspr station is running 24/7 = from 00:00 , it was advertised as so . I agree keep to the = edges =20 If the silliness persists and there are no clear areas for = multimode operation , may need to turn to spread spectrum = technology to negate the affects of the constant carriers ! G.. From: wolf_dl4yhf=20 Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:07 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: 630m Band Plan Am 03.01.2013 17:42, schrieb Graham: The more one looks at this , the more sensible it becomes , = I like the idea of a wide band mixed modes area 474 usb ,=20 As without any formalities we can see the more primitive = modes are congregating in the centre of the band , assumedly = necessary prevent out of band transmissions due to vfo drift or the = like ? Objection ;o) Let those 'primitive' but predominant modes like CW remain = at the start of the band. So they will suffer from the digital / beacon / etc QRM only from one = side.=20 Also keep beacon-like transmission as far away from the QSO / CW segment = as possible. You will know what I mean when the first 24/7 / 365 day = beacon appears ( I really hope this day never comes). Just my two Euro-cents of wisdom though ...=20 Wolf . ------=_NextPart_000_0135_01CDE9D8.36813EA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well Wolf , the   band is  all ready full of fixed = aero=20  beacons  and  for  some  reason  = wspr =20 is  also now  located in the  middle of the  = band ,=20 very strange , must be  quite  a problem  in the  = more =20 'densely'  populated  south  ,  at least one =20 wspr  station  is  running  24/7   = from =20 00:00  , it was   advertised as so   . I = agree =20 keep  to the  edges 
 
If the  silliness persists  and there  are no =20 clear  areas  for  multimode  operation  , may=20 need  to  turn  to  spread spectrum  =20 technology  to  negate the  affects of the  = constant =20 carriers !
 
 
G..
 
 

From: wolf_dl4yhf
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 5:07 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: 630m Band Plan

Am 03.01.2013 17:42, schrieb = Graham:
The  more  one  = looks=20 at  this , the  more  sensible  it  = becomes =20 ,  I like the  idea  of  a  wide  = band =20 mixed modes   area   474 usb  ,
 
As without  any =20 formalities  we  can  see  the  more =20 primitive   modes  are  congregating  in = the =20 centre  of the  band , assumedly necessary =  prevent out of=20 band transmissions due to  vfo  drift  or the  = like =20 ?

Objection ;o) Let those 'primitive' but = predominant modes like CW remain at the start of the band.
So they = will=20 suffer from the digital / beacon / etc QRM only from one side.
Also = keep=20 beacon-like transmission as far away from the QSO / CW segment as = possible. You=20 will know what I mean when the first 24/7  / 365 day beacon appears = ( I=20 really hope this day never comes).

Just my two Euro-cents of = wisdom=20 though ...

Wolf .

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