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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Spiros, Am 05.01.2013 17:09, schrieb SV8CS- Spiros Chimarios: > Hi Stefan. > Are you here? Yes, i'm here ;-) > Now I am transmitting on 136.30 Khz CW. That is fine and very optimistic! :-) > I have my delta loop for 80m (total lenght 80m) with a toroidal > tranformer (for test only). Do you use it as a delta loop and as a wire structure above ground, against an earth? Toroidal transformer sound like delta loop. 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Yes, i'm here ;-) > Now I am transmitting on 136.30 Khz CW. That is fine and very optimistic! :-) > I have my delta loop for 80m (total lenght 80m) with a toroidal > tranformer (for test only). Do you use it as a delta loop and as a wire structure above ground, against an earth? Toroidal transformer sound like delta loop. BTW, if no one replies to the call, spend some time and read all that: http://www.strobbe.org/on7yd/136ant/ > SWR is 2,4:1 and PWR out in the shack 25W. How do you measure the SWR? Is this a feature of the JUMA? > Can you see if you have any copy of me? Not in the moment, but later. I'm optimistic as well but you will have no chance with a delta loop of 80m circumference on 2200m. I suggest to build an amperemeter for the antenna current and build a typical loading coil and resonate this antenna against a ground. Then start with some QRSS-60 and try to leave a trace on the YO/4X1RF grabber for example. Then we can see what is possible. Good luck! 73, Stefan > 73, Spiros > SV8CS > >