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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, I think that due to the difficulties in switching the 2 bands I will change the connectors over to 4mm banana plugs/sockets. I will still have to go outside & physically change them over but it will be much easier & quicker. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.74.100.55 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (g4wgt[at]tiscali.co.uk) -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: d7907c3bf895ca41e0bedc3fa074f0d4 Subject: Re: LF: Re: MF variometer Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d405550f2e7d82bb1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stefan, I think that due to the difficulties in switching the 2 bands I will change the connectors over to 4mm banana plugs/sockets. I will still have to go outside & physically change them over but it will be much easier & quicker. I was hoping some like yourself may have used then with no problems, so it is worth a try. I have a large number of the solder bucket variety so that will be more permanent than the screw type. Thanks for your comments. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Schäfer" To: Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 4:17 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: MF variometer > Hi Gary, > > Am 13.01.2013 16:51, schrieb Gary - G4WGT: >> Hi Stefan, >> >> I have thought about LF & MF antenna coil switching but I am very wary >> about the very high voltages on the LF coil due to my short vertical >> antenna. At the moment I have 3 screw connectors to change over :- >> >> 1 - Main coil inductance >> 2 - Matching transformer input >> 3 - Matching transformer output >> >> I have also thought about using 4mm banana plugs to make the change over >> easier & quicker. >> But not sure about using banana plugs, are they suitable ? > ...at least i'm using one for LF and it still isn't molten or evaporated > ;-) Since i have to manually change the coil to the antenna wire i would > notice when the contact becomes loose, so i see no problem, so far. > But for a remote antenna switch i would have to use something special. Not > an ordinary relay of course.. The distance between the contacts should be > at least 20 cm. > > One idea would be a use a motor that turns an arm (isolated between motor > and arm). The arm is stiff and there is a thin wire connected to it, > coming from the coil. The arm turns until it touches the electrode of the > antenna (here it is the upper part of the HV isolator, see > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/MF/MF_vs_LF.JPG). The force to get a > goot contact could be achieved by using a magnet, maybe from an old HDD. > Of course the force must be lower than the force the motor torque can be, > so the ferromagnetic element which touches the HDD magnet must be quite > small because these magnets are strong! If the length of the arm is 30 cm > and the force is say 2 N than the drive motor must generate at least 0.6 > Nm, of course ;-) > As i was young i built a similar arrangement to discharge a 5 uF / 30 kV > capacitor via remote. The arrangement was floating (on a few cassette > boxes), including a small battery. The motor was activated by a transistor > and a light dependent resistor (LDR) and a hand lamp :-) > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC >