Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BC1033800008D; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:18:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TiQeR-00058p-N0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:17:39 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TiQeR-00058g-6W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:17:39 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com ([209.85.212.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TiQeP-0001HA-CD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 14:17:38 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hn14so1831442wib.10 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:17:16 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Bn2M3tOBOuNw4v7YXRHtL8oM+7AILKyZMeBGK/W33FM=; b=Zbro9Q1WteAM6ZmLOe2iERxTL9Zzzx2voPIVnfWBymtpFDxMj0HED64FJRKMrSfhH5 MBa903xlPLAifhvUdLuo4Sw1R1V1HOQbesSPx7gU6KT21odiKp/z8dJ+liJV9ynO1H03 jMhg8iXdNChbnWQoNbWdJf7/DeHyKQKYGGfdOu3+TWe2NvIh/eyfGCcV0ZbJhovyNX+o ZRriBsd+cIBKGOryKqmov/pSwO0aLBBfhMSI71XwhChX58mxVmcfAaAOahkFr+xZIH+o 6nNCuRFgfYFoWDzeRiurl2V5YWh21ZRkhWeVEtmhtCiZIZhepDBAh4OI4BgoDH2lAhOc thwg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.194.238.5 with SMTP id vg5mr809067wjc.40.1355235436477; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.16.132 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 06:17:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50C7367B.702@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <50C5F9E6.5040204@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <008201cdd6f2$6698ebe0$6d01a8c0@DELL4> <50C7367B.702@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:17:16 -0500 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan, I forwarded your message to Bob W2ZM (WE2XEB, WE2XGR/6) to see if wants to try QRSS on 137. Bob has had trouble getting signed up with this rsgb list (maybe an ISP problem?) so I have been forwarding messages from and to him. 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Bob has had trouble getting signed up with this rsgb list (maybe an ISP problem?) so I have been forwarding messages from and to him. 73 Warren K2ORS On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Stefan Sch=E4fer < Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote: > Jay, LF, > > Am 10.12.2012 17:21, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net: > >> [...] Care to share the details of the setup? >> >> Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 >> > > Martin has a 80m long wire in maybe 8m above ground. This wire is > resonated to LF and transformed to the RX input impedance by using a > ferrite rod. A separate LF earth is used. The RX is that one by JA8SCD, > http://icas.to/lineup/idc-136-**kit-eng.htm (also used by TF3HZ and DU1GM and others). He also has a tune= d loop > antenna with about 8 square meters cross section area. I guess its mostly > beaming to NE/SW. Furthermore he built a E-H-combiner to optimise the SNR > even more. There was a 3 dB improvement in some of the tests. > I don't know exactly what he is using these days but i guess the system i= s > not particularly optimised for best US reception. Maybe there could be a > few dB more S/N... > > What about WE2XEB? Is that not a motivating goal for him to leave traces > in SA, using traditional QRSS or DFCW? He would surely make that distance= , > not to talk about EU receivers... > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --089e0122f170c73e0204d094564c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan,
=A0 =A0 I forwarded your message to Bob W2ZM (WE2XEB, WE2XGR/6)= to see if wants to try QRSS on 137.
Bob has had trouble getting = signed up with this rsgb list (maybe an ISP problem?) so I have been forwar= ding messages from and to him.

73 Warren K2ORS



On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 8:34 AM,= Stefan Sch=E4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.= de> wrote:
Jay, LF,

Am 10.12.2012 17:21, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net:
[...] Care to share the details of the setup?

Jay W1VD =A0WD2XNS =A0WE2XGR/2

Martin has a 80m long wire in maybe 8m above ground. This wire is resonated= to LF and transformed to the RX input impedance by using a ferrite rod. A = separate LF earth is used. The RX is that one by JA8SCD, http://icas.to/lineup= /idc-136-kit-eng.htm =A0(also used by TF3HZ and DU1GM and others= ). He also has a tuned loop antenna with about 8 square meters cross sectio= n area. I guess its mostly beaming to NE/SW. Furthermore he built a E-H-com= biner to optimise the SNR even more. There was a 3 dB improvement in some o= f the tests.
I don't know exactly what he is using these days but i guess the system= is not particularly optimised for best US reception. Maybe there could be = a few dB more S/N...

What about WE2XEB? Is that not a motivating goal for him to leave traces in= SA, using traditional QRSS or DFCW? He would surely make that distance, no= t to talk about EU receivers...

73, Stefan/DK7FC




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=A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WE2XGR/1

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