Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C44F63800009B; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:00:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TmotO-00052d-Mn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:59:14 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TmotO-00052U-5h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:59:14 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f171.google.com ([209.85.212.171]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TmotM-0005Lf-58 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:59:13 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hn14so6024175wib.10 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:58:51 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NH4lZ8/ETTwDzbLJ4p706U3L9S1H267NXXz8gDSxxTI=; b=ssg66N/cPaZqrpPA1jpBqvV2m+1/yUNSabudPEiGzMKZWwX3FzyHO/KaLOryG3MEJY 5Gar5LwrG17RITWpuURs0QzEL0pLd1QIFs8LBj8JvuJ9d4NWfJ76I5ATmokSk2whFN4y T0ggYlF3a2Rv1l5j8vtZoPh1efKCkw7WqpC6Kr82zIEpORz28/TNXgT/bc21+gPZGvD/ 1P/npx3sY31Q0e3hk3Bcln0WygwIh1B2kpEEMyFUr66MRcQ5NC+mY3oj0vByM9GFYwOP xpWFC+oKaP8+tMIqmAPrRuOyXA/l3n8FLKchodDdW9aJuSEFzQaU1rVpfI4r9XPRi75T hpsQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.8.130 with SMTP id r2mr24444949wia.28.1356281931186; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.172.129 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:58:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3B3F364C54F24112B0098F814D576658@MPC> References: <3B3F364C54F24112B0098F814D576658@MPC> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 11:58:51 -0500 Message-ID: From: Warren Ziegler To: rsgb_lf_group X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Mark, I don't know what the power of the system is but I suspect that since at the base of 1/4 wave antenna the voltage is lowest this might be running substantial power. Also note that they are drawing arcs with grass, not metal or a graphite pencil. Very likely that they would have been killed if they had used a metal spike to draw the arc or if they had been standing on damp ground etc. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.212.171 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.3 URIBL_RHS_DOB Contains an URI of a new domain (Day Old Bread) [URIs: blacksheep.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (wd2xgj[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 3547ef0bd9aa4f6a2596c8a6b1b20265 Subject: Re: LF: Unusual radio mast video Ukraine ?? 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Also note that they are drawing arcs with grass, not metal or a graphite pencil. Very likely that they would have been killed if they had used a metal spike to draw the arc or if they had been standing on damp ground etc. 73 Warren K2ORS On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Mark wrote: > ** > All > The antenna in the Ukrainian video looks to be quite a low power system. > If you try that on a high power system you would suffer serious injury or > even death. > The arcs drawn in the video were a few mm long. I have seen arcs from high > power systems over 6" long and some considerably longer. Once an arc > starts it can self sustain, even bypassing the path that started it.. > if you became part of the path to earth things would vaporise quickly, > including parts of you. > These systems are very dangerous. Don't try this at home (or on a local > radio transmitter site) > > You have been warned. > Mark GM4ISM > Broadcast engineer... > > > > *From:* Graham > *Sent:* Sunday, December 23, 2012 12:28 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* LF: Unusual radio mast video Ukraine ?? > > What are they saying ? other than ' oh golly gosh , that a bit > warm' > > G.. > > > > > > http://www.southgatearc.org/news/december2012/unusual_radio_mast_video.htm?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AmateurRadioNews+%28Southgate+Amateur+Radio+News%29#.UNb27Kya98E > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus Database: 2637/5978 - Release Date: 12/22/12 > -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --f46d0444029ab9427404d187fe55 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I don't know what the p= ower of the system is but I suspect that since at the base of 1/4 wave ante= nna the voltage is lowest this might be running substantial power. Also not= e that they are drawing arcs with grass, not metal or a graphite pencil. Ve= ry likely that they would have been killed if they had used a metal spike t= o draw the arc or if they had been standing on damp ground etc.

73 Warren K2ORS

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On Sun, = Dec 23, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Mark <markhughes1@blueyonder.co.uk= > wrote:
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The antenna in the =A0Ukrainian video=A0looks t= o=20 be quite a low power system.
If you try that on a high power system=A0=A0you= =20 would suffer serious injury or even=A0death.
The arcs drawn in the video were a few mm long.= I have=20 seen arcs=A0from high power systems over 6" long=A0 and some considera= bly=20 longer.=A0 Once an arc starts it can self sustain, even bypassing the path= =20 that started it..
=A0if you became part of the path to earth thin= gs=20 would vaporise quickly, including parts of you.
=A0These systems are very dangerous.=A0 Don'= ;t try=20 this at home (or on a local radio transmitter site)
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You have been warned.
Mark GM4ISM
=A0Broadcast engineer...
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From: Graham
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 12:28 PM
Subject: LF: Unusual radio mast video Ukraine ??

What=A0 are=A0 they=A0 saying=A0 ?=A0 other=A0 than=A0=20 ' oh=A0 golly=A0 gosh , that a bit=A0 warm'=A0
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No virus found in this=20 message.
Checked by AVG - = www.avg.com
Version: 2013.0.2805 / Virus=20 Database: 2637/5978 - Release Date: 12/22/12




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