Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B8DAB3800008F; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 22:49:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TlX6p-00037X-60 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 03:47:47 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TlX6o-00037O-L3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 03:47:46 +0000 Received: from mail-pb0-f47.google.com ([209.85.160.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TlX6m-000463-CY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 20 Dec 2012 03:47:45 +0000 Received: by mail-pb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id un1so1660159pbc.34 for ; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:47:22 -0800 (PST) X-DKIM-Result: Domain=gmail.com Result=Good and Known Domain DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=BQd2F/6acV4RFLlMTcshkNTo7mdVfbkOREL2zCqPOMs=; b=IHxdKdsBYFItTOJ46B/Mumk8UCavxxCPaTWeNgDBzG/dmuU5yJydcLKVtqjILiViOP F7cNmROZKpb/tAu9lg6v1ONCqA35fCAlKpfE7jUySuN7za2704ATiBL5A8IhIAjiXmUG FNQQi29C4Ow48dqcpSiZAph1c+P8L6zC0ugUZt1/q3XTc6BzFvQxHm+eYYrzdBEPti5y fmq8VwKmxbC/QH1abvOisAve7u6ulJML2X6iOxvtwuSOs/3BogRFrq34npZX1mi1hMPm eOKg9NOLNN0TPC5tSUOQI7ItfQ5vV/jR2t1kcKcpNZhssalzYhGAoky7CaXkmsbM1lZC 2o3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.191.5 with SMTP id gu5mr25235277pbc.145.1355975241674; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:47:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.69.1.9 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Dec 2012 19:47:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20121218092921.Horde.h2yZX_rSz0VQ0BtRPVIC2uA@posti.anvianet.fi> <20121218100332.Horde.2ASBc_rSz0VQ0CNU8mNkBhA@posti.anvianet.fi> <20121218152622.Horde.XfcUIerSz0VQ0G7_VqKUnlA@posti.anvianet.fi> <83EEBFC65ED94B0880138E0637A84E24@AGB> <1355910758.35770.YahooMailNeo@web133201.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <1355911711.86770.YahooMailNeo@web133202.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <001801cddddf$cb3758e0$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <1355938960.81752.YahooMailNeo@web133205.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> <6DEA6A69388143C982FD7A3B1340B233@AGB> <1355943205.10939.YahooMailNeo@web133204.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:47:21 +1100 Message-ID: From: Dimitrios Tsifakis To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: When it comes to CW transmitters, this one takes the cake I think: http://fhs-consulting.com/aa1tj/newenglandcodetalker.html 73, Dimitris [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.160.47 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (dtsifakis[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: b14bcaca65d4b584f77d02a84d381cb4 Subject: Re: LF: Better picture of the 807 based 500kHz TX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-md01.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d605550d28ab576b6 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none When it comes to CW transmitters, this one takes the cake I think: http://fhs-consulting.com/aa1tj/newenglandcodetalker.html 73, Dimitris 2012/12/20 Graham : > Now there is a idea , could use a music synth to make a wobbly > note , and send it via the ssb exciter , for a real retro vintage cw > sound ? > > just had a long retro data qso with Chris xiz , on 502 , must be 2 > years at least since used rtty , beacon still running now , not > sure if anyone is still monitoring , all this web linking has > spoiled things ! > > 73 -G.. > > From: M0FMT > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 6:53 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Better picture of the 807 based 500kHz TX > > OK Graham > > Good point! But it doesn't jump it chirps quite pleasently Louis PA0LCE runs > one on 500kc/s and tells me ops like the Retro sound. > > 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > > From: Graham > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 17:52 > Subject: Re: LF: Better picture of the 807 based 500kHz TX > > Probably a early form of Spread Spectrum , hard to JAM if is its > jumping about the band and difficult to make a fake transmission if > the Tx has a wobbly bob signature : ) > > G.. > > From: M0FMT > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 5:42 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Better picture of the 807 based 500kHz TX > > OK Mal > > Point taken. I was referring to a "Power" oscillator like a single 6L6 used > as an Xtal oscillator running at 15 / 20Watts which means normally there is > insufficient current (really) from a VR tube for the Anode(plate) so all > that is necessary is to stab the screen. Otherwise I totally agree. > I do know the standard T1154 chirps well. There is a PA0 who runs one on 500 > and I am sure you have worked him it is like a signature signal HI. > I think there was some kind unpleasantness going on at the time of the T1154 > manufacture so the fine points of frequency control was probably a low > priority. > 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 11:55 > Subject: Re: LF: Better picture of the 807 based 500kHz TX > > Hi Pete > Stabilise both Plate es Screen on an Oscillator, followed by a Cathode > follower to avoid chirp and osc pulling. > The T1154 was very unstable with a bad chirp, surprised it ever passed > Quality Control > G3KEV > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M0FMT > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 10:08 AM > Subject: Fw: LF: Better picture of the 807 based 500kHz TX > > Try again minus cct too big I think. > > 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > From: M0FMT > To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" > Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 9:52 > Subject: Re: LF: Better picture of the 807 based 500kHz TX > > Hi Dimitris and group > > I have not seen the schematic but it is usual to stabilise the screen of a > power oscillator to reduce chirp on key down. > Now you have shown us yours I will show you mine. I usually sketch the > schamatic after the event so foregive the presentation on the back of an > envelope. > I now get at least 4Watts after adjusting the ant link coupling away from > the chasis. Best audible DX Kent 80miles best Opera DX PA0 land. > 73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX > > From: Dimitrios Tsifakis > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2012, 23:46 > Subject: Re: LF: Better picture of the 807 based 500kHz TX > > 2012/12/19 Graham : >> Why the stabilised screen supply ? >> G.. > > It's embarassing. I like the glow of VR tubes! :-) > > 73, Dimitris VK1SV > > > > > > > > > > > > >