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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan - thanks Ive only had one instance of an Eu station SM6BHZ "making it" to Alaska on 600m, if I recall< and that was on WSPR so dooable at the reasonable QRSS/DFCW speeds fer shur, thats on a rare day of course but Ive improved the Rx s/n since then by a dB or so which all helps. Interesting that the LF engineering (MPF102/2N2222) L400B, having moved it around some ten locations and heights and now up a Birch tree only 15ft above the ground down by the frozen lake, is the clear dB or so winnner on s/n over the 2T K9AY and Large Tx loop at 137, but the K9AY wins on most bearings at 500. 9AY is just too small in capture at 137 here, and tx loop just too noisy. Opps looks like we just had another after shock from the 5.8 Yesterday... this 22 storey Anchorage building rock and rolls. Laurence KL 1 XDate: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 00:11:32 +0100 From: Re: LF: Transpolar Long carrier test 137.7800 WE2XPQ tonight [...] Content analysis details: (-0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.34 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hellozerohellozero[at]hotmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 86a33fe05fd4c52b025518dbd249b8c0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_066a1f45-07ab-48ce-ac76-3bac1b9c9fc3_" Subject: RE: LF: Transpolar Long carrier test 137.7800 WE2XPQ tonight X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601550be8f120729 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_066a1f45-07ab-48ce-ac76-3bac1b9c9fc3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan - thanks Ive only had one instance of an Eu station SM6BHZ "making i= t" to Alaska on 600m=2C if I recall< and that was on WSPR so dooable at th= e reasonable QRSS/DFCW speeds fer shur=2C thats on a rare day of course but= Ive improved the Rx s/n since then by a dB or so which all helps. Intere= sting that the LF engineering (MPF102/2N2222) L400B=2C having moved it arou= nd some ten locations and heights and now up a Birch tree only 15ft above t= he ground down by the frozen lake=2C is the clear dB or so winnner on s/n o= ver the 2T K9AY and Large Tx loop at 137=2C but the K9AY wins on most beari= ngs at 500. 9AY is just too small in capture at 137 here=2C and tx loop jus= t too noisy. Opps looks like we just had another after shock from the 5.8 Y= esterday... this 22 storey Anchorage building rock and rolls. Laurence KL 1 XDate: Wed=2C 5 Dec 2012 00:11:32 +0100 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Transpolar Long carrier test 137.7800 WE2XPQ tonight =20 OK Laurence=2C=20 Well=2C on the EU TA path it looks quite good=2C Jay is getting good results at that time. There was some snow here=2C about 5 cm=2C which melts now. So its all wet and thus the losses a bit higher=2C maybe 1 dB max. About MF. I'm getting first impressions what is possible on 630m in distances > 5000 km. It looks not easy at all to make that distance above a land path. E.g. UA0SNV got me in QRSS-10 on LF but MF looks to be much harder. OK my LF signal is stronger than my MF signal though=2C anyway the difference is higher. Would you think there may be a chance to see traces in QRSS-10 or DFCW-15 on 630m in AK? 73=2C Stefan a continuous carrier test overnight on 137.7800 kHz from around 0100Z till around 1600Z Tonight (thats in a few hours time). =20 Conditions over the Polar regions are getting better but less than fair at the moment but worth investigating. A no show is still a result :-) =20 Transmitter will be the GPS/10MHz disciplined HP3336B via 4046 squarer and 4426 driver to the Decca 5501 Amp at around 600W into a Fir tree 140m loop - ERP is likely to be less than 0.5W in the main lobe 040/220deg T =20 The loop will be modified this coming week if the weather breaks but its been blowing 40Kts gust and -25C so still nippy on the face and fingers to do long term outside work. We are also in a "Red Flag" warning area so have to be careful with sparks and flames.. =20 =20 =20 Laurence KL 1 X Wasilla Alaska =20 =20 =20 =20 = --_066a1f45-07ab-48ce-ac76-3bac1b9c9fc3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan - thanks
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Ive only had =3Bone =3Binstance of a= n Eu station SM6BHZ "making it" to =3BAlaska on 600m=2C if I recall<= =3B  =3Band that was on WSPR so dooable at the reasonable QRSS/DFCW spe= eds fer shur=2C thats on a rare day =3Bof course but Ive improved the R= x s/n since then by a dB or so which all helps. =3B
 =3B
&nbs= p=3BInteresting that the LF engineering (MPF102/2N2222) =3BL400B=2C hav= ing moved it around some =3Bten locations and heights and now up a Birc= h tree only 15ft above the =3Bground down by the =3Bfrozen lake=2C = is the clear dB or so winnner on s/n =3Bover the 2T K9AY and Large Tx l= oop at 137=2C but the K9AY wins on most bearings at 500. 9AY is just too sm= all =3Bin capture at 137 here=2C and tx loop just too noisy.
 = =3B
Opps looks like we just had another after shock from the 5.8 Yesterd= ay... this 22 storey Anchorage =3Bbuilding rock and rolls.
 =3B<= BR>
Laurence KL 1 X

Date: Wed=2C 5 Dec 2012 00:11:32 +0100
From: Stefan.Schaefer@i= up.uni-heidelberg.de
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF= : Transpolar Long carrier test 137.7800 WE2XPQ tonight

=20 OK Laurence=2C

Well=2C on the EU TA path it looks quite good=2C Jay is getting good results at that time. There was some snow here=2C about 5 cm=2C which melts now. So its all wet and thus the losses a bit higher=2C maybe 1 dB max.

About MF. I'm getting first impressions what is possible on 630m in distances >=3B 5000 km. It looks not easy at all to make that distance above a land path. E.g. UA0SNV got me in QRSS-10 on LF but MF looks to be much harder. OK my LF signal is stronger than my MF signal though=2C anyway the difference is higher.
Would you think there may be a chance to see traces in QRSS-10 or DFCW-15 on 630m in AK?

73=2C Stefan

a continuous carrier test overnight on 137.7800 kHz from around 0100Z till around 1600Z Tonight (thats in a few hours time).
 =3B
Conditions over the Polar regions are getting better but less than fair at the moment but worth investigating. A no show is still a result :-)
 =3B
Transmitter will be the GPS/10MHz disciplined =3BHP3336B via 4046 squar= er and 4426 driver to the Decca 5501 Amp at around 600W into a Fir tree 140m =3Bloop - ERP is likely to be =3Bless than 0.5W in the main lo= be 040/220deg T
 =3B
The loop will be modified this coming week if the weather breaks but its been blowing 40Kts gust and -25C so still nippy on the face and fingers to do long term outside work. We are also in a =3B"Red Flag" warning area so have to be careful with sparks and flames..
 =3B
 =3B
 =3B
Laurence KL 1 X Wasilla Alaska
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