Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-di06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E604A380000AF; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 16:30:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TfdZz-00050u-4B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:29:31 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TfdZy-00050l-DW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:29:30 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s36.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.47]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TfdZw-0001ug-2H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 21:29:29 +0000 Received: from BLU153-W17 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 3 Dec 2012 13:29:06 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.42] X-EIP: [iaLSt/l53pazApp1otE60KxVww2Tgrry] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: Laurence KL1 X To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 12:29:05 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <844913113FF64AE3BCDA9DE954EE9F4C@AGB> <50BA9F0F.4060209@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <256F9D1306FB41F5B701266E2BEFFF0B@AGB> <50BAA507.5010600@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <341A12806ED04B3CA23301CEB40A7B99@AGB> <50BB85E3.4010302@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>,<000a01cdd0f4$2b316ef0$6401a8c0@JAYDELL> , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Dec 2012 21:29:06.0118 (UTC) FILETIME=[39123E60:01CDD19D] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Alan - if I see anything above Kp=2 to 3 I consider going back to stamp collecting for a number of days...no I serious ness I dont know why its been so bad save a continuing topping up due to Coronal holes and the additional geo effective blast keeping up losses on the Transpolar double or long length paths within the Auroral Oval . I just take a look at the Proton count and though IPS gives absorbtion levels of 0.1dB I think this is way different for freqs and paths we are looking at here. If in doubt blame HAARP just up my road here :-) (everyone else does) The Delta losses on DCF39 are huge between best and worst, Im sure Ive seen over 55dBs or more at times even in Winter night and not just for multi path cancellations in what in reality is a long but not huge path length. Im struggling to get a signal out of here and just managing West coast VE/W with occasional rare weak qrss sigs into JA - Now topo/ground losses may have something to do with it as these mountains are high and close in to the West thru North to South East, but ZL/VK have historically been good from near here. Just more to it up here... I really need a couple of calm days to work on extending the loop a bit but we are plagued with Katabatics kicking up to 80mph and -20C making it a tadge "fresh" as Mr Fiennes would put it. Laurence KL 1 X Alaska From: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 11:06:08 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: Last night's T/A [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.47 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hellozerohellozero[at]hotmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 6b0411a0208d534ec13cf5eb48c0cfb7 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_94228b27-b958-41ca-9a2f-c01ab7e9e943_" Subject: RE: LF: Last night's T/A X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1da60a50bd1a00758f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_94228b27-b958-41ca-9a2f-c01ab7e9e943_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alan - if I see anything above Kp=3D2 to 3 I consider going back to stam= p collecting for a number of days...no I serious ness I dont know why its b= een so bad save a continuing topping up due to Coronal holes and the additi= onal geo effective blast keeping up losses on the Transpolar double or lon= g length paths within the Auroral Oval . I just take a look at the Proton c= ount and though IPS gives absorbtion levels of 0.1dB I think this is way di= fferent for freqs and paths we are looking at here. If in doubt blame HAAR= P just up my road here :-) (everyone else does) The Delta losses on DCF39 = are huge between best and worst=2C Im sure Ive seen over 55dBs or more at t= imes even in Winter night and not just for multi path cancellations in what= in reality is a long but not huge path length. Im struggling to get a sign= al out of here and just managing West coast VE/W with occasional rare weak = qrss sigs into JA - Now topo/ground losses may have something to do with i= t as these mountains are high and close in to the West thru North to South = East=2C but ZL/VK have historically been good from near here. Just more to = it up here... I really need a couple of calm days to work on extending the = loop a bit but we are plagued with Katabatics kicking up to 80mph and -20C = making it a tadge "fresh" as Mr Fiennes would put it. Laurence KL 1 X Alask= a From: alan.melia@btinternet.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon=2C 3 Dec 2012 11:06:08 +0000 Subject: Re: LF: Last night's T/A Hi Jay and Laurence=2C Mmmm the depression of Dst was not that bad by my re= ckoning there must be a bit of something=20 else in that path. Maybe the auroral edge has moved south a bit more?? If t= hat=20 is the case Jays path should improve in the next couple of nights but the p= ath=20 to alaske may stay down for longer ?? The Kp only managed a 3 which is not normally=20 significant. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message -----=20 From:=20 Laurence KL1 X=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 =20 Sent: Monday=2C December 03=2C 2012 2:25=20 AM Subject: RE: LF: Last night's T/A =20 Ouch! - awful up here - DCF39 just a few dBs above noise at=20 0200Z.... Another night of Aurora perhaps! Got to say this is the=20 worst early Dx season Ive seen for 10 years...roll on Sunspot minima=20 :-) Laurence KL 1X Alaska =20 > From: jrusgrove@comcast.net > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >=20 Date: Sun=2C 2 Dec 2012 20:18:56 -0500 > Subject: LF: Last night's=20 T/A >=20 > Stefan >=20 > Graph below may help explain last=20 night's poor T/A. Signals picking up nicely at the moment ...=20 >=20 http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html . >=20 >=20 > Jay W1VD WD2XNS=20 WE2XGR/2=20 = --_94228b27-b958-41ca-9a2f-c01ab7e9e943_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Alan - if I see anything above Kp=3D2 to 3 I consider going back to stam= p collecting for a number of days...no I serious ness I dont know why its b= een so bad save a continuing topping up due to Coronal holes and the additi= onal geo effective blast keeping up losses on the  =3BTranspolar double= or long length paths within the Auroral Oval . I just take a look at the P= roton count and though IPS gives absorbtion levels of 0.1dB I think this is= way different for freqs and paths we are looking at here.
 =3B
&= nbsp=3BIf in doubt blame HAARP just up my road here :-) =3B (everyone e= lse does)
 =3B
The Delta losses on DCF39 are huge between best an= d worst=2C Im =3Bsure Ive seen over 55dBs or more at times =3Beven = in =3BWinter night and not just for multi path cancellations =3Bin = what in reality is a long but not huge path length. Im struggling to get a = signal out of here and just managing West coast VE/W with occasional rare w= eak qrss sigs into JA -
 =3B
Now topo/ground losses =3Bmay h= ave something to do with it as these mountains are high and close in to the=  =3BWest thru North to South East=2C but ZL/VK have historically been g= ood from near here. Just more to it up here...
 =3B
I really need= a couple of calm days to work on extending the loop a bit but we are plagu= ed with Katabatics kicking up to 80mph and -20C making it a tadge "fresh" a= s Mr Fiennes would put it.
 =3B
Laurence KL 1 X =3BAlaska
=  =3B
From: alan.melia@btinternet.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
= Date: Mon=2C 3 Dec 2012 11:06:08 +0000
Subject: Re: LF: Last night's T/A=

Hi Jay and Laurence=2C Mmmm the depression of Dst was not that bad by my reckoning there must be= a bit of something=20 else in that path. Maybe the auroral edge has moved south a bit more?? If t= hat=20 is the case Jays path should improve in the next couple of nights but the p= ath=20 to alaske may stay down for longer ??
The Kp only managed a 3 which is not normally=20 significant.
Alan
G3NYK
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Laurence KL1 X
Sent: Monday=2C December 03=2C 2012 2:25=20 AM
Subject: RE: LF: Last night's T/A

Ouch! - awful up here - DCF39 just a few dBs above noise= at=20 0200Z.... Another night of Aurora perhaps!

 =3BGot to say this= is the=20 worst early Dx season Ive seen for 10 years...roll on Sunspot minima=20 :-)

Laurence KL 1X Alaska



>=3B From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
>=3B To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>= =3B=20 Date: Sun=2C 2 Dec 2012 20:18:56 -0500
>=3B Subject: LF: Last night'= s=20 T/A
>=3B
>=3B Stefan
>=3B
>=3B Graph below may help= explain last=20 night's poor T/A. Signals picking up nicely at the moment ...
>=3B= =20 http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html .
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B Jay W1= VD WD2XNS=20 WE2XGR/2
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