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Content preview: That's as good a reason as any to keep apart From: jrusgrove@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:18 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: WE2XEB 137.7 WSPR [136.2 dial freq] {NO WE2XGR/6 ops} [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.59 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 479f887a0af49374011bd47f9dfa3263 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XEB 137.7 WSPR [136.2 dial freq] {NO WE2XGR/6 ops} Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01CDD401.249060F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b9950c11c937a15 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01CDD401.249060F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's as good a reason as any to keep apart =20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net=20 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:18 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XEB 137.7 WSPR [136.2 dial freq] {NO WE2XGR/6 ops} Looks like we're on the road to recreating the same old problem again = this year ... merging the EU and US ' dx windows '. Reception of EU = stations will not be possible on this end with a 100% duty cycle QROO = station in the 'EU window'. =20 Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 4:52 PM Subject: Re: LF: WE2XEB 137.7 WSPR [136.2 dial freq] {NO WE2XGR/6 ops} Hi Graham, Stefan, it's not so much a question of whether one prefers to state RF or dial = frequency. I think Stefan is saying (and I would agree) that if Bob = moved to 137.4 to 137.6 (ie. 136.0 dial), he would have more potential = receivers in Europe. For example, PI4THT and possibly other unmamned = monitors are continuously watching this range. =20 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Graham=20 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 9:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XEB 137.7 WSPR [136.2 dial freq] {NO WE2XGR/6 ops} S.. It was WSPR that gave the world the concept of 'dial = frequency' for data mode operation , the exact qrg is not = relevant , only that it falls inside the decoder window , set = the rx to 136.2 and retire immediately .......dont forget these = are beacon stations , so are not bound by the normal band = allocations .. and are not licensed for qso 's ( which would be = a interesting situation using the new JT mode beacon/beacon ) G. Tonight being =20 WSPR on 137.7 (136.2 dial freq)=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 7:58 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XEB 137.7 WSPR [136.2 dial freq] {NO WE2XGR/6 ops} Warren,=20 Why is he TXing on 137.7 kHz and not on 137.5 kHz +- 0.1 kHz? The risk = will be high that some stations will listen on the wrong frequency!=20 73, Stefan Am 06.12.2012 20:31, schrieb Warren Ziegler:=20 Stefan,=20 ERP is approx 10W, yes Bob is Very Serious! 73 Warren On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Stefan Sch=E4fer = wrote: Hi Warren, What is his ERP, roughly? Do you know? Is it "serious"? 73, Stefan Am 06.12.2012 20:21, schrieb Warren Ziegler:=20 Bob W2ZM will NOT be on 499.5 (600m) tonight However he will be on 2200m WSPR on 137.7 (136.2 dial freq) with = the call WE2XEB commencing 2300 UTC. --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --=20 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ=20 WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01CDD401.249060F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's  as  good  a reason as  any to  = keep =20 apart 

From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XEB 137.7 WSPR [136.2 dial freq] {NO = WE2XGR/6=20 ops}

Looks like we're on the road to=20 recreating the same old problem again this year ... merging = the EU and=20 US ' dx windows '. Reception of EU stations will not be = possible on=20 this end with a 100% duty cycle QROO station in the 'EU window'.=20  
 
Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  = WE2XGR/2
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
Sent: Thursday, December 06, = 2012 4:52=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XEB 137.7 = WSPR [136.2=20 dial freq] {NO WE2XGR/6 ops}

Hi Graham, Stefan,
 
it's not so much a question of = whether one=20 prefers to state RF or dial frequency. I think Stefan is saying = (and I=20 would agree) that if Bob moved to 137.4 to 137.6 (ie. 136.0 = dial), he=20 would have more potential receivers in Europe. For=20 example, PI4THT and possibly other unmamned monitors are=20 continuously watching this range.  
 
Best = 73,
Markus = (DF6NM)

From: Graham
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 9:08 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XEB 137.7 WSPR [136.2 dial freq] {NO = WE2XGR/6=20 ops}

S.. It was   WSPR  that  gave = the =20 world  the concept of  'dial =20 frequency'   for  data  mode  = operation  ,=20 the  exact  qrg is  not  relevant , only  = that =20 it  falls inside the  decoder  = window    ,=20 set the  rx  to  136.2  and   retire=20 immediately  .......dont  forget  these are  = beacon=20 stations  , so  are not bound  by the  = normal =20 band  allocations  .. and are  not  licensed  = for qso=20 's    ( which  would  be a =20 interesting   situation using  the  new  JT=20 mode  beacon/beacon )
 
G.
 
Tonight  being 
 
WSPR on 137.7 (136.2 dial freq)

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 7:58 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XEB 137.7 WSPR [136.2 dial freq] {NO = WE2XGR/6=20 ops}

Warren,=20

Why is he TXing on 137.7 kHz and not on 137.5 kHz +- 0.1 kHz? = The risk=20 will be high that some stations will listen on the wrong frequency!=20

73, Stefan

Am 06.12.2012 20:31, schrieb Warren Ziegler: = Stefan,=20
   ERP is approx 10W, yes Bob is Very Serious!
73 Warren



On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Stefan = Sch=E4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>=20 wrote:
Hi Warren,

What is his ERP, roughly? Do = you know?=20 Is it "serious"?

73, Stefan

Am 06.12.2012 20:21, = schrieb=20 Warren Ziegler:=20

Bob W2ZM will NOT be on 499.5 (600m)=20 tonight
However he will be on 2200m WSPR on 137.7 (136.2 dial = freq)=20 with the call WE2XEB commencing 2300 UTC.


--
73 = Warren=20 K2ORS
                = WD2XGJ
              =  =20 WD2XSH/23
              =  =20 WE2XEB/2
              =  =20 = WE2XGR/1




<= BR=20 clear=3Dall>

--
73 Warren K2ORS
        =  =20       WD2XGJ
          =  =20     WD2XSH/23
            =  =20   WE2XEB/2
              =  =20 = WE2XGR/1

 
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