Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5F150380000BB; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 03:12:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TksGX-0002Lt-TR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:11:05 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TksGX-0002Lk-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:11:05 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.130] helo=cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TksGV-00011b-He for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:11:04 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: F01CF12803D.AF2C5 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-1.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-1e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.33]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01CF12803D for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:10:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB3.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub3.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-1.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EA73D404D for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:10:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::312b:f3bc:9c4:4ebb]) by ICTS-S-HUB3.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::a470:76b3:406d:2b1a%27]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:10:36 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: JT9-10 @ 474 +1400 Thread-Index: AQHN3KRaY4Ch8f+Jh0yOc8DkOGbLK5gdhuGAgACrjHQ= Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:10:36 +0000 Message-ID: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB60AA5@ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be> References: ,<50CE5A96.40902@broadpark.no> <50CE6BDB.6080008@gmx.net>,<50CF71CE.5090902@broadpark.no> ,<50CFA0F5.1030506@princeton.edu> In-Reply-To: <50CFA0F5.1030506@princeton.edu> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.112.13.13] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 134.58.240.130 (rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) used invalid HELO/EHLO cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be - verification failed X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Joe, all, if there are some "takers" I could do some JT9-10 transmission tonight on 501.4kHz (500kHz dial) starting 20 UTC. The setup here is a Kenwood TS440 transmitting on 3.5MHz mixed with 3MHz xtal osc. down to 500kHz, filtered and amplified to 6W RF (estimated 20mW ERP). With this setup I was copied up to 1600km (OH) in JT9-1 and JT9-2. 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The setup here is a Kenwood TS440 transmitting on 3.5MHz mixed with 3MHz xt= al osc. down to 500kHz, filtered and amplified to 6W RF (estimated 20mW ERP= ). With this setup I was copied up to 1600km (OH) in JT9-1 and JT9-2. It would be interesting to know if the frequency stability such a basic set= up is OK for JT9-10. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens Joe Taylor [joe@Princeton.EDU] Verzonden: maandag 17 december 2012 23:47 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: JT9-10 @ 474 +1400 Hi Laurence, Steinar, and all, On 12/17/2012 5:15 PM, Laurence KL1 X wrote: > Steinar I was getting some reasonable syncs but appeared not > stable enough - so that confirms it :-) Laurence KL 1 X LA5VNA wrote: >> Thanks Tobias. The conclusion is clear , my system in NOT stable enough >> when using JT9-10. Pity , but that's life ;( Please send me an example of a JT9-10 file that seems like it should have decoded, but did not. NOBODY has yet done so. I am reasonably sure that small amounts of frequency drift can be detected and adequately compensated in software... but I can't do it without some typical examples. If you know it, it will help to have, along with the file, the message that was being transmitted. Note to all: I am presently working on a version or WSPR that will allow transmissions of length 10 (or 15?) and 30 minutes, with other features like the traditional WSPR. Sensitivity should be as good as the WSPR-8 and WSPR-32 tests made by Marcus (and others). -- 73, Joe, K!JT=