Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D4B2C380001C3; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 08:53:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TgFOU-0006lZ-9y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:52:10 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TgFOT-0006lQ-Pi for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:52:09 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.130] helo=cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TgFOR-0001pG-S5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 13:52:08 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: A31D512803E.A22E0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-1.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-1e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.33]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31D512803E for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:51:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB1.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub1.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.15]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-1.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 290404042 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:51:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::312b:f3bc:9c4:4ebb]) by ICTS-S-HUB1.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::f5f7:d8cc:bee0:28d3%26]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:51:38 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: 137kHz Rules and Regs Thread-Index: AQHN0adQuRAL7Co15EmkrK0JFVmLFpgKAu4AgAARwwCAACcWew== Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 13:51:38 +0000 Message-ID: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB5EA2E@ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be> References: ,<50BF3E84.9070800@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <50BF3E84.9070800@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.112.13.13] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 134.58.240.130 (rhcavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be) used invalid HELO/EHLO cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be - verification failed X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: Same in Belgium, no mode restriction. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Stefan Schäfer [Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de] Verzonden: woensdag 5 december 2012 13:31 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 137kHz Rules and Regs [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [134.58.240.130 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: e51657317b06d9cbe905ec682fad6602 Subject: RE: LF: 137kHz Rules and Regs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB5EA2EICTSSMBX5lunaku_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cb50bf51e06cbf X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB5EA2EICTSSMBX5lunaku_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Same in Belgium, no mode restriction. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens Stefan Sch=E4fer [Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de] Verzonden: woensdag 5 december 2012 13:31 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: 137kHz Rules and Regs Hi Dave, No restrictions to bandwidths? So you could work in SSB as well? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 05.12.2012 12:27, schrieb DAVE PICK: Warren My UK licence shows 0.1357MHz to 0.1378MHz "Secondary on the basis of non-i= nterference to other services inside or outside the UK" at 1W e.r.p. with n= o restrictions on modes or bandwidths. The wording is exactly the same as f= or 160 or any other band where the amateur service is not the primary user. Note "e.r.p." rather than EIRP. Dave G3YXM On 3 December 2012 22:38, Warren Ziegler > wrote: Hello the list... The FCC is looking to authorize the 135.7-137.8kHz ham band in the U.S. = with 1 W EIRP and beyond that possible restrictions on antenna height and p= ower - also they may implement some restrictions based on proximity to powe= r line carrier (PLC) equipment. Having operated WD2XGJ with up to 4W ERP (6= .5W EIRP) within 300 meters of a power line with an active PLC, I feel that= this is overly restrictive. Can anyone tell me what the rules and practice are in Europe and also C= anada? I would like to include this info in my response to the FCC. Tnx! -- 73 Warren K2ORS WD2XGJ WD2XSH/23 WE2XEB/2 WE2XGR/1 --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB5EA2EICTSSMBX5lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Same in Belgium<= /a>, no mode restriction.

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 

 

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Stefan Sch=E4fer [Stefan.Schaefer= @iup.uni-heidelberg.de]
Verzonden: woensdag 5 december 2012 13:31
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: 137kHz Rules and Regs

Hi Dave,

No restrictions to bandwidths? So you could work in SSB as well?

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 05.12.2012 12:27, schrieb DAVE PICK:
Warren
My UK licence shows 0.1357MHz to 0.1378MHz "Secondary on the basis of = non-interference to other services inside or outside the UK" at 1W e.r= .p. with no restrictions on modes or bandwidths. The wording is exactly the= same as for 160 or any other band where the amateur service is not the primary user.
Note "e.r.p." rather than EIRP.

Dave G3YXM

On 3 December 2012 22:38, Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
Hello the list...
   The FCC is looking to authorize the 135.7-137.8kHz ham ba= nd in the U.S. with 1 W EIRP and beyond that possible restrictions on anten= na height and power - also they may implement some restrictions based on pr= oximity to power line carrier (PLC) equipment. Having operated WD2XGJ with up to 4W ERP (6.5W EIRP) within 300 meters of = a power line with an active PLC, I feel that this is overly restrictive.

    Can anyone tell me what the rules and practice are in Eu= rope and also Canada? 
I would like to include this info in my response to the FCC.

Tnx!


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73 Warren K2ORS
                WD2XGJ
                WD2XSH/23
                WE2XEB/2
                WE2XGR/1

 

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